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Post by SKR on Mar 13, 2016 16:51:53 GMT -7
Jeff and I have been kicking around an idea and I thought I would put it out there to see if there was any interest.
PRO-STREET OUTLAWS"
Like the popular show "street outlaws" we would have a top 5 or 10 list depending on the interest. You'd have the opportunity to move up or get on the list at every NTRA event. We're talking about the baddest of the bad here so for this style of racing it would require the race master to jumper controller wires to both lanes so that both cars take off at the same time. The class would be based around NTRA "Pro Street" rules.
One car per participant. Here is an example of how I think the list should start. I'm going off of qualifying times from the Winter Nats.
PRO STREET Qualifying Winter Nats
1) SJRACER #6 .916
2) KIWIDAVE #5 .932
3) NOSUBFOR3 #3 .945
4) NOSUBFOR3 #2 .946
5) SJRACER #7 .947
6) SKR #4 .957
7) EAGLE RACING #1 .987
8) ALEXDALERACING #8 1.177
9) JORDAN #9 1.264
10) KS1933 #10 1.616
This is how the list would look if we started today.
PRO STREET OUTLAWS
1) SJRACER
2) KIWIDAVE
3) NOSUBFOR3
4) SKR
5) EAGLE RACING
I would hold the first PSO event at my track the night before the Spring Nats.
anybody interested? Anybody want to work their way up to take Darryl's spot?
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Post by ks1933 on Mar 13, 2016 17:08:56 GMT -7
Sam, I think that is a pretty cool Idea. It could grow into something big.
.....Dennis
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Post by ks1933 on Mar 13, 2016 18:22:12 GMT -7
Sam, would the pro street outlaw rules be under the 2015 pro street rules?
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Post by jjwallace on Mar 14, 2016 4:51:52 GMT -7
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Post by nosubfor3 on Mar 14, 2016 11:40:30 GMT -7
I'm in
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Post by 79malibu on Mar 14, 2016 15:43:28 GMT -7
Count me in great idea
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Post by kiwidave on Mar 14, 2016 19:34:41 GMT -7
Oh yeah!!! I'm!!
How about the cars have nicknames like on the TV show???
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Post by sjracer on Mar 15, 2016 16:28:35 GMT -7
I always felt that other people nickname you? I always saw the other way as bragging i.e. "Prime Time" or "Neon Deion". Smack talk can be encouraged but that's another section. If I must name my car since it was/is an orange and white Corvette I must pay tribute to that noble philosopher Linus and call it, " The Great Pumpkin!"
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Post by sjracer on Mar 15, 2016 17:01:43 GMT -7
Since there are only 5 names and 10 spots we could make it interesting. On tv they run both small tires and big tires. The Great Pumpkin is an AFX that's right a non magna traction thus, we could run a non magna traction and magna traction allowing for potentially 2 entries.
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Post by nosubfor3 on Mar 16, 2016 4:16:11 GMT -7
Sam SJ brought to mind a question I have. The rules chassis type state AFX/XTraction. Can a Non Magnatraction chassis be used in this class?? |
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Post by jjwallace on Mar 16, 2016 9:03:16 GMT -7
SJ it's my understanding at this point in talking with Sam that entries for this will stay at one and the list at 5 unless we have a lot of interest to make a 10 car list. As far as the rules for Pro Street allowing AFX non magna traction....I interpreted it as yes it would include AFX Magna Traction or non MT for my race. I don't see any advantage to using that chassis over the others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 9:17:46 GMT -7
Aurora AFX originally included both AFX and MagnaTraction chassis.
MagnaTraction chassis were an improvement to the original AFX.
original Aurora AFX chassis (apparently currently accepted as Non-MagnaTraction) were vast improvements to the Aurora pancake t-jet design.
because of design changes to TYCO chassis which attempted to use the motor magnets as downforce magnets, Aurora redesigned the AFX platform to the MagnaTraction platform to also incorporate magnetic attraction to the track rails and revamp the motor brush system which was antiquated.
I guess I am just too old (old school), because I view AFX as a specific chassis that came before MagnaTraction and doesn't need to be described as Non-MagnaTraction.
AFX is the first design.
MagnaTraction is the second design.
to add to my confusion, many people use the term AFX for an inline series of Chassis designed and owned by TOMY(who now might be Race Masters).
in fact, some of the TOMY packaging even says "Aurora AFX" on it.
XTraction is Auto World's name for their reproduction of the MagnaTraction chassis with exterior traction magnets included.
to further add to the MadNess, Aurora had an inline chassis dubbed the Super Magna Traction based on their Gplus chassis with some improvements.
not that this diatribe answers the question put forth by nosubfor3.
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edit
in addition, the original Aurora AFX chassis had 6 ohm "mean green" armatures and MagnaTraction chassis had 14 ohm red or gold wire arms.
they are interchangeable.
in my racing local circle, STOCK AFX class is allowed to use either chassis, but must use only the armature originally installed in the chassis by the manufacturer.
using a 6 ohm armature in a MagnaTraction chassis(which has stronger magnets and better motor brushes) is not allowed.
just clarification to further muddy the waters!
LOL
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Post by sjracer on Mar 16, 2016 14:23:19 GMT -7
Correct Al, I sent the car because I wanted to know which one would run best on a Maxx Traxx, the Javelin kills the Corvette on my TKO track. I always heard that Maxx Traxx had thicker rails. Just doing some pre-race testing for your race in couple of weeks. Honestly it was at a disadvantage going by nitroslot rules because I had no way to get traction via magnets.
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Post by jjwallace on Mar 16, 2016 15:52:03 GMT -7
Darryl your cars sure do run well here no matter what the surface to be at a disadvantage....lol. Pro Street rules do allow for no more than 2 traction magnets if you wanted to add them. I just keep it simple and look at AFX as both chassis types. I like when the older stuff runs with the new. Any time you need me to make extra runs or anything while I have your cars, just say the word.
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Post by SKR on Mar 16, 2016 18:26:21 GMT -7
Nosub, Yes they will be legal. I like the mix up of old vs. new.
SJ, You'll like my strip. It has thin rails and a little less down force than TKO's.
Alright so this is how I see the first event. Dave called SJ out so we will let that race happen. I'm sure Nosub will want to take on the loser of that race for the #2 spot and then possibly #1. Now this is where it can get tricky. Say SJ loses to Dave and again to Nosub. If SJ's car just isn't running like it should for whatever reason... Should he should be able to deny another race at this event so that he doesn't lose anymore position or should we just fight it out until everything is decided? What do you guys think? The race will be live so it will be important to be online or you can send me your cell # along with your cars to receive text updates. I need some input.
Thanks
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