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Post by SKR on Mar 8, 2010 20:29:09 GMT -7
Yeah I'd go with the 14 ohm minimum and any Aurora/AW Ceramic motor magnets. No braids, stock gears, slip on silicone tires, any motor brushes & springs. I think we should keep it as simple as possible for this race. Maybe call them Alcahol Funny Cars and leave the big Armatures for any future events where we might want to go quicker and then call that one Top Fuel F/C? Just a thought.  |
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Post by 440gtx on Mar 8, 2010 21:25:33 GMT -7
I could live with those rules. I think we also decided to run at 13.8v right?
How does a test n tune in June and the race in July sound? I know that sounds like a long way off but it will be here before we know it. Plus we have the Gasser race in May to prep for. I'll get with the "Mafia" and try to come up with dates if June/July is ok.
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Post by scottman2007 on Mar 8, 2010 21:32:40 GMT -7
I like the rules,and as well the time of the race.
also could someone maybe post what arms normally come in the old 4gears and what their Ohms might be??
yeah this could be not really Acohol,but lets face it, top fuel ran slower back then,and thats what i want,and then later do another race with them ,but faster like a modern nostalgia Funny car event.But iam 100% agreement with everything so far.
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 9, 2010 21:10:41 GMT -7
Below I have summarized the proposed rules for the 4-Gear Funny Car meet this summer.  Some things to consider. AW chassis come with neo traction magnets. Is it mandatory that they be removed? Could not find an ohm measurement of AW armature. Anyone know ohm of armature on AW 4-Gear chassis? I once saw foam tires that fit the specialty chassis rear wheels. Will foam tires be allowed? Could not find a vendor that had short step pick-ups. Will bend alterations be allowed? Is body style restricted to a particular era? Are parachutes going to be mandatory? |
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Post by 440gtx on Mar 10, 2010 0:38:31 GMT -7
Here's my 2 cents
I don't think that you will need traction mags at 13.8v. I haven't tried the AW chassis so I don't know for sure but I believe that the T-mags will just slow the car down. I think Sam might have mentioned that.
Like I said, I don't have a AW 4 gear so I don't know for sure but I would bet that they have the same arm as the x-tractions and the thunderjet 500's. Most range from mid 14's to mid 15's.
Jag hobbies shows the short step shoes but they are out of stock. I tried a set of AW shoes on the afx chassis and they were just as fast as the short step shoes.
I think that if you want to run the foam slip on tires you should be allowed but I think the silicone tires would be a lot better.
I think it was proposed that the bodies should be pre 1990. I'd kinda like to see pre 1980.
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Post by kdog on Mar 10, 2010 5:06:45 GMT -7
It's not that I feel I need the traction magnets, but don't know if I want to pry them from a new chassis. Do they give the new AW cars an advantage over a orignal 4 gear.
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Post by 440gtx on Mar 10, 2010 6:03:34 GMT -7
kdog,
have you tried the AW 4 gear on your track at 13.8v? If so what kind of times did it run? If not, would you be able to do that for me? I'd really like to see how a stock AW compares to an AFX.
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Post by Dusted on Mar 10, 2010 10:53:18 GMT -7
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Post by scottman2007 on Mar 10, 2010 11:23:08 GMT -7
iam pretty cool with the rules so far,but before we make a decision on traction magnets lets see how an AW 4 gear does agaisnt a old school 4 gear,then if the AW 4 gear is faster,then take out the traction magnets and see what happens.
Also lets make the body Year Pre 1985,because there are some cool early 80's Bodies.
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 10, 2010 11:41:19 GMT -7
This the same person that operates www.slotcarcentral.comHe has everything to build a 4-gear chassis except the electrical components. He has pick up springs, but you would have to go somewhere else for other items. Electrical components can be found at JAGS www.jaghobbies.com. JAGS has everything except armature pinion gear and
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Post by 440gtx on Mar 10, 2010 12:42:27 GMT -7
the pinion gear is a 9 tooth t-jet gear
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Post by Demon340 on Mar 10, 2010 18:59:18 GMT -7
Why not let these cars have wheelie bars that way we don't have to mess with lead in the front end. I think the SS cars should have wheelie bars and dump the lead. Use lead in the stock class.  DEMON |
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Post by SKR on Mar 10, 2010 20:43:00 GMT -7
I'm not sure how these 4 gear AW chassis run on the lower volts. I'll give it a try this Staurday night. I suspect it will be very slow with no performance advantanges over no traction magnets and most likely be a disadvantage unless we allowed braided pick up shoes which we are trying to stay away from... Not sure, I'll give it a try and post the results.
Looks like there still lots to discuss. I think those of us that have tracks and these type of cars should do some test and tuning to see what works best and post results of our runs with different set ups like 440GTX did in another post. Sound good? We still have plenty of time to fiinalise this class rules but like many of you, I feel the the sooner the better.
Matt, June/July sound good to me.
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Post by Dusted on Mar 11, 2010 5:27:09 GMT -7
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Post by 440gtx on Mar 11, 2010 15:51:37 GMT -7
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