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Post by pceng on Apr 14, 2014 8:10:40 GMT -7
Sorry had to run just then, was thinking alittle bit lower for the stance, touch more in rear, then slight tilt to left...........lol. Just kidding, looking forward to racing, any ideas for color yet ?
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Post by AJR on Apr 14, 2014 12:16:46 GMT -7
Peter probably only going to get 1 Gasser done for Sam's race, but since Al is now going with all 1/43 scale for his event in August, I might run Gassers in September race. If I do I will have a second one ready by then. Having to start from scratch on these because I have no tjet parts other than a couple of solid rivet chassis I had as a kid. It's cool to use this old stuff. Just goes to show you how good the quality is on those cars. The Pro Street car that won this last race is a 35+ year old AFX chassis running a 35+ year old blue tip drag arm. I like bringing the old stuff back to life.  Planning on running 2 E/D cars though. I need to get better at my stock builds. Gasser stance is going to be a little lower, but I'm not sure I can tuck the rear wheels ( body is a little narrow ) and if I cut the fenders it ruins the way that car looks. I will figure it out. Those cars did sit pretty high though.
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Post by AJR on Apr 14, 2014 19:17:17 GMT -7
DUH..........I always hate when I look like a dummy.  Racemaster and/or crew cannot run in the Gasser class. I knew that, but wasn't thinking when I posted. Anyway, I am still seriously considering running the class. I know several people were looking forward to it and I would like to see some more Tjet classes run. I will make the announcement if I do probably sometime after the Summer Nationals.
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Post by TGM2054 on Apr 15, 2014 4:54:37 GMT -7
Jeff, I've never seen a written rule, just kind of a courtesy. That way there's no question about the out come off the race. When I hosted we ran Stock 4 gear and N/PS-Rat Rods,I didn't compete just for that fact.
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Post by pceng on Apr 15, 2014 9:18:37 GMT -7
Don't forget Co. Hope we see the Nova there.
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Post by AJR on Apr 15, 2014 14:15:57 GMT -7
Jeff, I've never seen a written rule, just kind of a courtesy. That way there's no question about the out come off the race. When I hosted we ran Stock 4 gear and N/PS-Rat Rods,I didn't compete just for that fact. Tom a racemaster can run in the pro classes and I have done that, but I feel that we have shown to be fair and unbiased. With that being said, I will be getting away from doing that more and more. It came up last year when we were running 4 of 7 events. I've always kind of had a funny feeling about it and since we have such a full race schedule this year, it's not as big an issue. I have won some of my events and have also had some of my worst losses as well. I really don't have a problem with it as I feel we have a great and fair group of racemasters. That is all for your information in case you didn't know. Gasser is not considered a pro class therefore neither the crew or myself can run in it. By the way......didn't you say awhile back that you were rebuilding your track? How is that going? |
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Post by AJR on Apr 15, 2014 14:29:57 GMT -7
Don't forget Co. Hope we see the Nova there. Peter I am building it for Sam's race. Now that I realized my mistake about running in September I think I will build a second one as well. I wanted to build some tjets last year, but budget kept me from it. I ended up building an MM/PS car instead. Wasn't going to let it go by this year. There has been so much noise about lack of tjet classes being run that I would like to start trying to get some in at my events. Let's see how that goes. Adding another class to the September race means there will be 4. When you run that many the coverage suffers unless it is a 3 day event. I am all about the coverage and the fu fu, so if our schedules allow for the 3rd day then it will be added. I will figure that out well in advance. I am having fun with the build and watching the class run and seeing all the great builds at the Winter Nationals has inspired me. Maybe I can give that mean Falcon a run . |
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Post by SKR on Apr 15, 2014 18:41:39 GMT -7
interesting subject. I for one just can't get on board with having local racers enter their cars. From the beginning (for me) it was always about the out of town racers and not the local ones. We would run separate races for the locals. Last year at our Spring Nats I entered my FED and was relieved that the gear went out in qualifying so it didn't race. I wouldn't have won or made it passed the first round anyways but it still just felt wrong. Now I understand that the NTRA made some rule changes to allow locals to race and I feel that it has grown the NTRA and possibly saved it from being non-existence which is great for this club. So how do you make everyone happy? not sure... One thing I've always thought about doing is having team races. Say one person from each event was on a team! For example; myself, Pceng. Jeff and Tom, etc.... were on a team.I would get to run their cars and tune (if necessary) for team points at my event and also run my car. This would allow the locals to compete against each other. This wouldn't work at all tracks that only have a few racers.
Anyways just throwing out a thought. Maybe it will spark some interest or get your minds thinking of new ways to help grow the NTRA.
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Post by TGM2054 on Apr 15, 2014 19:54:20 GMT -7
Jeff, I'm sorry if you feel that I insunated anything. That was not my intention. You've done a great job! I'm just saying that's the way I did it.
As far as my track, I've got the stuff for the frame work, the MDF, most of the electricals and I just bought the router bit. As soon as I can get the "honey do's" done it'll be full steam ahead.
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Post by Eagle Racing on Apr 15, 2014 20:37:45 GMT -7
Locals racing in race....Hmmmm....skr thinks it is interesting, yes it is.....only a problem for some when locals win . Teams, now that would be interesting, but small programs as stated, that would not work. Our local program has now become a small race program of two. We lost prettynpink over dispute, escamillachicks lost interest, slotfather grand child, R&R went to 1/43rd scale, rarely raced HO. Our program is now Eagle and Angry Jeff as regular NTRA racers. Heck the crew everyone thanks for the races we run is just us anyway, we do it all. We enjoy running the races and we do get our share of cry, cry, cry somethings not right. That is in every program, proxy or at a commercial track. It is part of racing. Do race masters get upset over it? Yes we do, but we have Ninjatek to calm everyone down... Teams.....how about teaming better racers with less experienced racers or racers that do not do as well. Teams do not have to be even either. For example a Pro might have three rookies on the team. This is just an example it can be anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 21:37:13 GMT -7
Teams.....how about teaming better racers with less experienced racers or racers that do not do as well. Teams do not have to be even either. For example a Pro might have three rookies on the team. This is just an example it can be anything.
Sorta like National Events. One in the beginning, Middle and end of the Race Season? And see if they could be hosted at the Premier Facilities....
I know this rookie would be allin for something like that
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Post by AJR on Apr 16, 2014 3:39:01 GMT -7
Jeff, I'm sorry if you feel that I insunated anything. That was not my intention. You've done a great job! I'm just saying that's the way I did it. As far as my track, I've got the stuff for the frame work, the MDF, most of the electricals and I just bought the router bit. As soon as I can get the "honey do's" done it'll be full steam ahead. |
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Post by AJR on Apr 16, 2014 6:02:01 GMT -7
interesting subject. I for one just can't get on board with having local racers enter their cars. From the beginning (for me) it was always about the out of town racers and not the local ones. We would run separate races for the locals. Last year at our Spring Nats I entered my FED and was relieved that the gear went out in qualifying so it didn't race. I wouldn't have won or made it passed the first round anyways but it still just felt wrong. Now I understand that the NTRA made some rule changes to allow locals to race and I feel that it has grown the NTRA and possibly saved it from being non-existence which is great for this club. So how do you make everyone happy? not sure... One thing I've always thought about doing is having team races. Say one person from each event was on a team! For example; myself, Pceng. Jeff and Tom, etc.... were on a team.I would get to run their cars and tune (if necessary) for team points at my event and also run my car. This would allow the locals to compete against each other. This wouldn't work at all tracks that only have a few racers. Anyways just throwing out a thought. Maybe it will spark some interest or get your minds thinking of new ways to help grow the NTRA. Sam I hope you can get passed that feeling of not running in your events. For instance it would be great to see your MM/PS cars run in your race in May. I personally want to run against the best racers and I like to see your ( and others ) builds. If you do not run I cannot do that. For example Phantom has now run his first 2 events and ran cars in both. If he had not run we would have lost a competitive racer and not gotten to see his cars. As far as making everyone happy....there will always be somebody that has a beef. I have spent my whole career dealing with customers and sadly some people are happiest when they are unhappy. I think the best way to try and keep the mass happy and content ( and gain new members ) is to be consistent and keep quality in the events. I am well aware of the potential for conflict and will deal with it then if it ever comes up. It will not come from me though. Once again, I hope you will consider running your MM/PS cars at your event. The team idea sounds very interesting and I am sure there will be some thoughts on that. See you in May. |
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Post by ks1933 on Apr 16, 2014 6:26:21 GMT -7
Newbie two cents. What I see here is a great! bunch of people trying to help each other at what we all enjoy doing. But you know the old saying you can't please all the people all the time. I don't see a problem with race directors racing in the race they are hosting, only if they win, just kidding. I am having a hard time keeping up with all of the classes at each race, I know it is me being new and I don't have to enter every class but the competitor in me says race.
As for keeping every one happy It will never happen and we all know that, but you guys are doing a pretty good job of keeping every one happy as I see it. I will help Tom (TGM) build his track and help him host a race or two. We have possibly five guy's here that would race as a group. I have a track I am putting together It has a ways to go yet, If you would ask my wife she hopes it has a long way to go, she says I am spending to much time fooling with these cars any way. Maybe I should have posted this as newbie ramblings oh well........Thanks every one. |
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Post by pceng on Apr 16, 2014 6:46:17 GMT -7
Teams.....how about teaming better racers with less experienced racers or racers that do not do as well. Teams do not have to be even either. For example a Pro might have three rookies on the team. This is just an example it can be anything.
Sorta like National Events. One in the beginning, Middle and end of the Race Season? And see if they could be hosted at the Premier Facilities....
I know this rookie would be allin for something like that
Good to see someone new to the site speaking up. Idea of spreading such races sounds good. First year I joined site we had a manufacturers race at LIONS. Though embarrassed by my lack of performance, it was a fun event ! Found my self rooting for others on team and probably was more involved paying attention to every race than any event since then. .....A combination of team & manufacturer run the same as the event held at LIONS. Same # qualifiers from each team race each other. Now we're cooking ! That being said, I won't be making next race. The past few months of dealing with parents health has worn me mentally. Yesterday, things came to an end. My Dad passed away. Day after being moved to Hospice. I need a. short break....... I'm just tired. ........ Good luck to all at the next event, I'll be back.......... Peter |
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Planning on running 2 E/D cars though. I need to get better at my stock builds. Gasser stance is going to be a little lower, but I'm not sure I can tuck the rear wheels ( body is a little narrow ) and if I cut the fenders it ruins the way that car looks. I will figure it out. Those cars did sit pretty high though.
Racemaster and/or crew cannot run in the Gasser class. I knew that, but wasn't thinking when I posted. Anyway, I am still seriously considering running the class. I know several people were looking forward to it and I would like to see some more Tjet classes run. I will make the announcement if I do probably sometime after the Summer Nationals. 
