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Is there a difference?

I'm not trying to be a smart axx but I don't know why the track determines what type of power you run. Don't you just hook it up to the wire taps to whatever you are running?

I'm just starting up so until I get a power supply I'm running some wall warts. The wiring seems pretty simple.

OK...I guess some of the "experienced" on here need to fill us in?

Either will work. It's just a matter of what you like and can afford.

Here is a good article that was posted by Chris (killerskid) in another thread.



I'm surprised the old man ("killer") hasn't chimed in with an opinion on the power sources.

It’s been awhile since my one required electrical engineering course, but I’ll help the best I can.

A common misconception is that voltage is a significantly important variable to be controlled with slot cars. In reality, small differences in voltage won’t affect the total power to the slot car, so long as an adequate amount of current is available. The small electric motor will draw the adequate amount of amperage to offset small changes in voltage. That’s why they can run the same dial-ins all night at Psycho Slots and simultaneously have a small voltage drop. This can be summed up with Joule’s Law: Power = Current X Voltage. Just remember the DC motor only pulls the current it needs.

Does the small change in voltage subtly affect HOW the car performs (torque, heat, etc.)? Maybe to some small degree but it is probably a second or more likely a third order affect. The affect is probably about the same as not placing the car in the exact same orientation on the start line, or not having the armature in the exact same position, or not having precisely the same gears meshing. I could go on and on but you get the idea, it’s not measurable.

I personally have a preference for batteries over AC/DC power supplies for one main reason: the AC/DC power supply is plugged into the wall. Wall power is not consistent and you have very little control over it. You may think the power company is sending you good power but it can change at any time. AC/DC power supplies combat these changes by using capacitors or some other smoothing feature. Regardless, I think if you did a comparison of a battery power vs. AC/DC power supply over a course of a race, you’d see that battery power is more consistent. You may overcome the difference if you pay a pretty penny ($400+) for very good power supply.

Another possible problem is the bleed through of AC heating the motors. However, it shouldn’t be as significant to drag racing as road racing.

In the end here’s how I see it. The AC/DC power supply is built to imitate the perfect DC power source (batteries). The AC/DC power supply offers a lower effort alternative to a battery. However, a good AC/DC power supply is expensive. Other lesser AC/DC power supplies may do the job if you buy two. Now you’ve got two power supplies plugged into the same circuit (we’re back to the wall power which I don’t like).

Ultimately, you have to judge the tradeoffs for yourself. A few deep cycle batteries plus a good charger will almost always cost less than a comparable AC/DC power supply alternative. Do you perceive the maintenance/charging of deep cycle batteries as burdensome? Some do. Some don’t. Would you rather just plug in the wall and run? Venting batteries shouldn’t be an issue if you don’t overcharge, but it wouldn’t hurt to open a window (I think they even make maintenance free versions which are more expensive). Is the AC/DC power supply you can afford good enough to imitate a consistent DC power source? How long will the batteries last? With good maintenance, some will last many years, with bad maintenance not so much. How long will the AC/DC power supply last? A good power supply will probably last a long time. A bad power supply will become less and less reliable as the heat generated due to the AC/DC conversion tends to cause damage. You can probably judge the quality of the power supply by the warranty offered.

Wow, I wrote more than I expected. For me, I would choose batteries because it’s a cheaper and simpler system: fewer variables are involved which I prefer. However, to each their own, a good AC/DC power supply probably isn’t significantly different.

Here's an old thread I found as well that may be helpful:

groups.google.com/group/alt.hobbi....b10c?lnk=st&q= dc+motor+ripple+damage&rnum=2&hl=en#
« Last Edit: Sept 17, 2007, 7:21pm by killerskid »

thanks sam this should realy help . da big ragoooooo.

Great news, the track is packaged and being sent priority tomorrow. Yay!

hey you know i could never guess how santa did it ether maybe your on to something got get me some motion detectors . good to hear your track is go out .

I got an e-mail saying that my track ships out today.