Gasser class question

when are the rules going to be posted
for the gasser class. thanks

mac

Hey Ninja..I need a clarification on the rules for magnets on the NFC cars. Are Dash ceramic 'replacement' mags legal? Just curious since it says Aurora or AW mags, and when I ran my 2 NFC cars a few years ago in the first race, one had Dash mags and one had AW mags, but at the time both were legal. Just wondering?
Ron (Bondo)

A post was up momentarily, that expressed the legality of Dash magnets for NFC Class. After further
research it has been discovered that Dash magnets were only approved for all T-Jet classes other
than Stock and Supper Stock Classes. Use of Dash magnets with 4-Gear chassis is now the question
to be pondered. Below is a post by John Balich (one of NTRA founders) which first allowed use of Dash
magnets.


Take Notice!!!
At present no know documentation allowing the use of Dash magnets with the 4-gear chassis has
been found. The archive will continue to be searched for a decision on the matter one way or another.
If no documentation surfaces, the use of Dash magnets for use with 4-gear chassis will be reviewed
and a determination made. Until such a determination is made, use of Dash magnets with 4-Gear
chassis, at this moment is considered illegal. Anyone wishing to advocate their position either pro or
con can PM your opinions to ninjatek. I am currently out of town. I will post a determination on this
matter approximately one week from now.

Actually Peter, I got mine off of "Dash" himself on Ebay recently, can't remember his Ebay name. They are as good as the best ceramic out there, at least the couple sets I've had in the past were. The new ones I now have seem to be just as good. They actually compare to the best dark blue and white ones I had (came from the first JL release of the Tjet 500 cars in 2000 or so), which were always rumored to be the best, even as good or better than Super 2's (alledgedly anyway...never had Super 2's so I couldn't say for sure..lol), which we all know are expensive and hard to get. The sets I have now come out to the same strength as the only set of the Tjet 500 mags I have left, at least on my 'generic' magnet tester. And, they actually cost less than those Tjet 500 mags do (when you can find someone that will sell just the Tjet 500 mags that is).
And yes, they are ceramic.
Ron (Bondo)

Has anyone used the Wizzard mags? They have some to fit the Tjet. Just wondered what the comparison on these are.
Keith

Well, I'm back and boy do I have a lot to catch-up on.

First things first. A question was raised about the use of Dash magnets being used with four gear
chassis. So far no documentation has surfaced with any mention of Dash magnets in association
with the four gear chassis of any class. I have reviewed the positons of the few who chose to give
opinions on the matter. I also have made special effort to reach out to the founding members that
started this class. Most (actually all) found there to be no significant advantage by using the Dash
magnets. Many found it to be a disadvantage in that they are made for a chassis that support T-Jet
sized magnets. As best determined, only the four gear non-magnatraction chassis will support
these magnets (and any three gear T-Jet based chassis). All other four gear chassis support the
Magna/X-Traction sized magnets. Anyone electing to use the four gear non-magnatraction chassis
will be placing themselves at a disadvantage as they will be limited to T-Jet sized magnets unless
serious modification is performed in the magnet housing area. Modifications such this are not
allowed for NFC four gear class. These mods could be used when running as a Doorslammer, but
why would you use T-Jet sized magnets when Magna/X-Traction sized magnets are clearly much
stronger? These are the findings in this matter and based on the findings the ruling is as such:

As no significant advantage is to be gained by using Dash magnets, it shall be legal to use Dash
magnets with the non-magnatraction chassis only, when submitting entry to a NFC(4G) Class
event. As it cannot be demonstrated nor determined that Dash has magnets available for the four
gear magnatraction chassis, use of anything other than Aurora/AW ceramic type magnets for
the four gear magnatraction chassis shall be considered illegal for the NFC(4G) Class. Secondly,
as this class is intended as a stock type class, use of cross typing chassis parts is forbidden. Most
specifically with regards to magnets. Magnets intended for non-magnatraction chassis shall only be
used in non-magnatraction chassis. Same is to be said of magnatraction sized magnets and
magnatraction chassis.

This ruling is directly applied to the rules of the NFC(4G) Class and effective immediately. The section
of the rules which currently read:

Motor Magnets: Any Aurora / AW ceramic magnets.

Shall be made to read:

Motor Magnets: Any Aurora / AW ceramic magnets; Dash (T-Jet) magnets allowed when used with non-magnatraction chassis.


On another note- A useful resource has been over-looked in recent years, that being use of the NTRA
Bulletins. it was most helpful in researching this matter. In the next few days I will create a bulletin
reflecting this recent amendment to the NFC Class rules. Thereby, having written documentation as
reference should the question one day in the future arise.

Why this is in a post titled Gasser Class Question? I don't know. Another reason to make use of the
NTRA Bulletins, we'll never find this two years from now. Something comes up worth archiving let me
know and a Bulletin will be released.

Cordell -aka Ninjatek
NTRA Race Coordinator