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Post by Tbolt on Jul 3, 2008 15:44:56 GMT -7
NHRA shortens race distance for Top Fuel and Funny Car classes to 1,000 feet as an interim safety measure
As the investigation continues into the tragic accident that took the life of driver Scott Kalitta, NHRA has announced that beginning at the Mopar Mile High Nationals in Denver, Colo., both the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes will race to 1,000 feet instead of the traditional 1,320 feet or one-quarter mile. This is an interim step that is being taken while NHRA continues to analyze and determine whether changes should be made to build upon the sport's long standing safety record, given the inherent risks and ever-present dangers associated with the sport.
This interim change was made by NHRA in collaboration with professional race teams. NHRA believes that racing the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes to 1,000 feet will allow NHRA and the racing community time to evaluate, analyze and implement potential changes based on the safety initiatives outlined last week.
With the change, fans will still be able to enjoy the sights, sounds and thrill of NHRA nitro racing with speeds around 300 mph and quick elapsed times to 1,000 feet.
Over the years, NHRA has implemented many initiatives to enhance safety including measures to limit speeds from increasing, personal protective gear, vehicle improvements, and track enhancements such as sand traps, catch nets and concrete barriers the entire length of the drag strip.
In the wake of the tragic series of events that took Kalitta's life, the following technical issues are currently under investigation: 1) what might be done to reduce engine failures; 2) parachute mounting techniques and materials as well as identifying a parachute material that could be more fire resistant; 3) exploring whether there is a way to increase brake efficiency when cars lose downforce due to the loss of the body; 4) analyzing additional methods that might be developed at the top end of the race track to help arrest runaway vehicles; 5) considering whether current speeds should be further limited or reduced to potentially improve safety.
“The board members of the Professional Racers Owners Organization (PRO) wholeheartedly and unanimously support this decision,” said its president Kenny Bernstein. “We want to thank NHRA for listening to our input and suggestions to incorporate these changes. It is not lost on any of us that this constitutes a change in our history of running a quarter-mile, but it's the most immediate adjustment we can make in the interest of safety which is foremost on everyone's mind. This may be a temporary change and we recognize it is not the total answer. We will continue to work hand in hand with NHRA to evaluate other methods of making Top Fuel and Funny Car competition safer so that we might return to our quarter-mile racing standard. We also want to thank Connie Kalitta for his invaluable input. He has been a rock through these difficult times.”
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Post by scottman2007 on Jul 7, 2008 8:57:33 GMT -7
I personally think this change is stupid ,then its not quarter mile drag racing !!!! One thing i hate about NHRA is everytime someone dies ,they want to change things.and shortening the track is a ridiculas idea.and i cant believe these drivers are supporting such an idiot Idea to do this. example: How many times have drivers at the Indianapolis motor speedway have lost their lives,and did they say will since drivers are being killed ,lets make the indianapolis motor speedway shorter,and then we can call it the indy 300...come on NHRA Grow up,all they need to do is put some more restrictions on the motor or the nitro content to slow them down alittle.not alter the track.guys have been killed in nascar and they dont shorten the tracks.i wont watch another NHRA event. the problem is these crew cheifs are pushing the motors beyond thei limits period!!!!!!!!if you watch an event it seems like every other car that passes the finish line blows the motor,to where white smoke pours out of the headers,and it use to be not many cars would do that.now its like every other cars ruins the motor at the finish line. this isnt drag racing anymore.iam glad wally parks isnt aorund to see this.
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Post by johnbalich on Jul 7, 2008 10:00:12 GMT -7
I love your passion, Scottman. I for one think the 1000 foot race at Denver is appropriate. Let me start by saying I understand and relate very much to your concern that NHRA is making an arbitray change after an incident. The organization I work for is much criticized (by me included) for reactionary changes. here's some of my thoughts. (1) the NHRA Funny Drivers group at the NATIONAL level is NOT a huge group. most meets see aboput 20 cars give or take competing for 16 spots. Yet out this very small slice of drivers we have had two deaths and a coupel of near misses (Pedregon and Force) in about a years time. Statistically thats pretty significant. (2) I don't know this for a fact, but it is likely that the drivers themselves were asking for some type of action. ( paragraph below added later) “The board members of the Professional Racers Owners Organization (PRO) wholeheartedly and unanimously support this decision,” said its president Kenny Bernstein. “We want to thank NHRA for listening to our input and suggestions to incorporate these changes. It is not lost on any of us that this constitutes a change in our history of running a quarter-mile, but it's the most immediate adjustment we can make in the interest of safety which is foremost on everyone's mind. This may be a temporary change and we recognize it is not the total answer. We will continue to work hand in hand with NHRA to evaluate other methods of making Top Fuel and Funny Car competition safer so that we might return to our quarter-mile racing standard. We also want to thank Connie Kalitta for his invaluable input. He has been a rock through these difficult times (3) NHRA, or any sanctioning body in any sport, ahs many people to please and avoid running afoul of. Drivers are one group. The Public at large is another group. SPONSORS are ahuge group. If NHRA was say to become associated with unreasonable danger to drivers and or fans to the degree it would fall out of public favor, sponsors would be less and less willing to be associated with the sport. So on many levels an action, perhaps temporary, is warranted. Top fuel dragsters used to be an unlimited type class. But progressing speeds have caused sanctioning bodies to put many limits on the cars to control speeds. The shortened track is a band aid perhaps, but the beauty of a band aid is that it stops the bleeding while you figure out what to do next. Without actions cars would hit 340 then 350 then Tracks cannot arbitrarily add shut down area. It takes real estate money and time. How many tracks would be de commissioned due to shut down area, if speeds hit 375. These kind of speeds used to be the province of Bonneville. Nascar has taken many actions to limit speed. In Nascar shortening a race does NOT alter top speeds. In NHRA competition it DOES. A long term solution that might be better than the shortened track might be Nitro Limits, cubic inch limits pushed downward again (like the history of the Indy 500). all of these have wider effects on tuning set ups etc. The short track is a "QUICK fix," while NHRA figures out what to do. Another thing to consider. If NHRA failed to act in SOME way and injuries and deaths get out of hand, who is to say that CONGRESS would not at some point feel the need to become involved? Do you want THEM running Drag racing? It has happened before, when a private organization does not deal internally with a situation....... Any way there is still 1/4 mile at many and most events...... and I assume the slower classes at least will not change for the long term . Last thought. If YOU were the NHRA what would you? Thats for anyone to chime in on...... Personally i dont care if they 290 or 325, I want close racing. Just my ten cents here...
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Post by scottman2007 on Jul 7, 2008 11:19:20 GMT -7
But i see your point ,But they are changing the length of the track i dont care where your at is just wrong,I believe if you look up the word dragracing its two cars racing down a 1/4 mi flat staright peice of asphalt.My whole point is dont shorten the race,just have better restrictions on the cars themselves.iam like you If they slow them down i dont care,i want to see close side by side racing.like i stated before cust back on the nitro percentage,and maybe have then use shorter gears,But dont shorten the track.like i said there have been way many other drivers to lose their lives in other forms of motorsports and not one of them have shorten a track to make the cars slower.I even hate alot of these local tracks going to 1/8th mile racing thats not drag racing in my book,a car that barely gets into 2nd gear and you shut off,....BORING.
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Post by allstarhr on Jul 7, 2008 14:00:28 GMT -7
Let's see.. *NHRA has stopped testing on Monday's after races because Nitro is now so scarce and expensive. *Nobody wants to watch Blown Alky cars as they are not loud enough or shake the ground enough. *They could lower the cubic inches to 350 and all the teams would have to throw away millions of dollars worth of stuff and come up with new tune-ups and even harder yet..4-8 new 350 blower motors to blow up while they get the tune right. *They could go to a smaller/narrower tire and take the chance that the excess wheel speed could turn their car into one like Eric Medlin's in Gainesville. *They could add 300 or more pounds to the weight of the car but then again, all the log books would be obsolete and how much harder will it be to stop a heaver car once it's going 280MPH. (One interesting comment I heard was to make all the drivers be at least Doug Herbert's size and get rid of all the jockeys. Hot Rod's cool though.) *They could lower blower speed again but that would eliminate the cool sounds we all expect of a fuel motor. Make it too sissy and might as well watch 600HP NASCAR cars.
All these suggestions have been made and would make the tuner throw away his hard earned logbook. More importantly, all those things would cost significant $$$ and take months of poor quality racing to get back to a good show. Goodyear's former head drag tire engineer stated that the current tires are not safe over about 305 mph. The shutdowns are too short at many tracks. The motors let go at 1100 feet and beyond. With what NHRA has to work with they actually made an intelligent decision for once. (For me, that was difficult to type. I'm still mad about the new Countdown instead of a real season long, World Championship.)
Some of you know I've watched a bunch of drag races since 1962. At tracks like Indy, Gainesville, Pomona, Bandimere, CO, St. Louis and smaller tracks like Springfield, Mo., Alton, Il, Orlando, FL, Assumption, IL, Spokane, WA, Wichita, KS, Bowling Green, KY, and many, many more. Some I can't even remember the name of. I've watched from every spot at the track including a bunch of towers.. and even tower suites lately. My favorite? Gainesville on a beautiful day, pits side at the 900' mark, half way up or higher. The people that sit there are true fans, they know what they are talking about and you never hear one of them telling you how their drive to work Camaro runs 9's at 150 on snow tires. Yeah, I'm gonna miss the last 300 feet of wailing, peddle down threw the lights bonzi runs. But I will willingly for a quick safety fix so no more of the old guys.. like Connie Killita and John Medlin, have to watch their son's die. It's either that or stop racing for at least a year till the teams can get geared up to some major new rules and Oh yeah..... find the money to buy all those parts with.
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Post by johnbalich on Jul 7, 2008 14:08:35 GMT -7
fans will accept 300 moreor even 290 when thats the top dog speed and races are close....
i HATE seeing the 1320 being adjusted......just like yuo scottman ..anyway its a fun discussion..
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Post by gm454 on Jul 7, 2008 16:02:33 GMT -7
Hey Phil, I used to watch the races at Assumption IL too. I actually heard rumors earlier this year that someone was thinking about starting the track up there again if there would be enough interest. I don't think much came of it though b/c the Coles County Dragstrip at Charleston is not that far away and it is already established. The track at Assumption was plowed under many years ago so it would pretty much have to start from the ground up again.
Troy and I got Grumpy Jenkins' autograph at Assumption back in the late 70's when he and Ronnie Sox stopped in for a little grudge match one weekend.
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Post by da big ragu on Jul 7, 2008 16:40:04 GMT -7
hey guys i know you are on to some thing but lets face it racing is racing it is not for the weak at hart in the fuel ranks and the drivers know it is dangerous they would not do it if they did not love the sport . now no one wants to lose a son or another driver so how do you help keep the drivers alive when at the same time you go for the speeds and et's ahhhh again i say they all want to go fast right . think about it back in the day that was the goal go fast and break new records will never change so anything you do will only be short term because they will find another way of gettin to the goal (going fast and settin new records) you can't stop it so don't think any thing nhra or anybody does is going to keep them from trying to get to the goal . just think what the future holds with new fuels and such ... in one way sad in other very exciting just my 2 sents
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Post by allstarhr on Jul 7, 2008 16:40:06 GMT -7
Hi Gary, Late 70's and the end of the grudge races. About then it got really hard to make money on a two car best 2 of 3. I lost a good chunk of money on a Grumpy vs. Dyno Don grudge race in 1980. Did you ever get up to Whitehall Dragway North of Carlinville? I just happened to sit down next to two guys from there a couple weeks ago at the Holley Hot Rod Reunion in Bowling Green. Nice guys. We had a good time going over ole times.
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