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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 13:59:04 GMT -7
Is it like the 1/24 scale cars 2 deep cycle batts and a shumaker charger or 90 amp bull dog power supplies and 1 faret caps on each lane i bought some neo and they hardly go any help ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2010 15:37:38 GMT -7
Hay Rat, I think they are using 20/22 volts. If you are not using continuous rail, the power drop is going to be a lot. I can ask somebody at BP about a source of track rail. One of the Tyco designers is a racer here and has hooked up some club tracks with continuous rail.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 8:44:49 GMT -7
My track is plastic ho track in sections i plan to replace with mdf with steel fish wire ,formica or painted not sure yet ,but anyway what i have is a power supply from a printer which is about 30v on a volt meter and the other one is 2 car batteries in series which reads about 23 v im thinking about running a 2nd set of leads at the end of the track any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 11:01:26 GMT -7
as important as the power, rails and power taps(as many as possible with fine strand large gauge wire) is the armature you are using with NEO and Polymer motor magnets. I have found that only custom wound low OHM armatures work with NEO magnets and very low OHM stock arms with Polymer magnets. others may have had different results. for H.O. I use 24+ volts with nearly unlimited amperage via two 12 volt automotive batteries in series, no charger needed during racing. for 1/24, I used pairs of diesel truck 12 volt batteries in parrallel with an high end Sears battery charger on them during racing. that yielded about 16 volts with very high amperage. just as important are the wire taps which should reach just beyond the finish line so that the amperage can be pulled all the way to the end of the track. I like 8 and 4 guage Monster Speaker wire with very fine strands for power taps and have close power taps at the starting line end, one about 6" behind starting line, one about 12" past starting line, another about 18" past that and then every 6' feet or so through the traps. Amperage travels through the molecules on the outside of each strand of wire. if you have one double 0 guage thick ground wire for a power tap, there are fewer paths for the amperage to travel on on the very outside of the very thick mass of copper. if you use fine strand wire, such as welding leads, then there are more paths for the amperage to travel. voltage is nice, but high end electric motors in any scale devour amperage. so, make sure your armatures are up to snuff, your power taps are sufficient and your power supply is capable. if your power supply can only muster a couple amps, that motor is starved of what it needs most and I don't think that printers require much amperage. look at the power supplies for sale on eBay. do a search for variable voltage power supply. look at the prices of the ones rated at up to 18 volts with 3 amps. look at the prices for the ones rated at any voltage but capable of 5 or more amps. this will tell a story that I can only illustrate here. you might be able to use two automotive batteries in series and recharge them when not in use for less money. some people are afraid of batteries for various reason. but properly maintained, fused(circuit breakered) and wired they can provide many years of unlimited amperage and voltage for much less than many power supplies. OK, long winded enough? that is all today about electric. maybe another day we can discuss magnet dynamics. LOL.
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Post by SKR on Nov 11, 2010 18:28:48 GMT -7
Amen Brother! lol We're going on 4 years with our Batteries (Same set) and have to agree that they can be safe. They might not be the right application for everyone but if you are running some low ohm arms, big magnets or both...... then this can be a safe and somewhat inexpensive way to ensure quality power. More on Battery power: nitroslots.com/index.cgi?board=ps1&action=display&thread=201
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 9:24:37 GMT -7
Thank you for the info guys
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Post by bondoman2k on Dec 8, 2010 18:05:24 GMT -7
Curious about something. Due to the fact that I am VERY limited on space, and my track will be in my spare bedroom in my apartment..is it possible to use 2 motorcycle batteries instead of car batteries? Would definitely take up a lot less space, and would be easier to 'enclose' them, but do they put out enuff amps to do the same thing as car batteries? I do have two 'wall warts' already, but I know those are low amps (they are Tyco transformers, but I would use one for each lane). Might actually be cheaper to get a power suppy, but I don't really want to raise my electric bill...LOL. Already WAY too high as it is, and I know once my track is up and running, I'll be on it a LOT. Any ideas? Ron (Bondo) Lonestar Racing and Resins
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Post by SKR on Dec 8, 2010 20:03:30 GMT -7
Not sure Ron, You'll have to research to see what bike batteries put out for amps. Power Supply might be the way to go, just tap into your neighbors power.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 20:14:16 GMT -7
the problem with any AC/DC unregulated power supply is that they never put out the same voltage and/or amperage at the same time and, they fluctuate greatly due to the variance in the AC supply. using one per lane never gives adequate, equal power to both lanes. any type of continuous DC (battery) source properly wired provides equal power to all lanes, both voltage and amperage. some very expensive AC/DC power supplies have circuitry to allow for dips and spikes in the AC current supply. Motor cycle batteries should suffice for stuff like t-jets, but might fade under the draw from magnet cars. and as I said in the huge post above, properly spaced power taps with adequate wire will make your cars come alive.
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