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Post by damo on Oct 22, 2013 20:16:47 GMT -7
Hi All,
Firstly I'd like to introduce myself. I am the owner of a newly launched slotcar business. I am a 1/32 scale digital slotcar racer and a posting member on other slotcar forums who has just discovered HO Drag racing. I always knew it existed but never tried it. Just recently I was asked to go to my daughters school and talk to the kids about my work. My daughter had already told her teacher that I would bring a slot car set and when I found out my first thought was OH NO! How would I get a classfull of kids to be able to have a go with a regular layout and not have any trouble as well as keep the kids entertained? Ok, drag racing! That'll do it! A couple of runs each, quick and easy, no worries! So I bought an Auto World set and we put it together here over the last weekend to test out. My 2 kids (3yr old Boy, 7 yr old Girl) loved it and we've been dragging each other off time and time again for days now.
So, I got to thinking... I am going to build a routed 1/4 mile HO track. I am going to want it to be easy for any visitors and guests and people who have never tried it before. Here is where my question comes in. I have looked into the timing systems and I like the Slot Dragon but the 0.4 seconds from staging to go I think would be a bit hard for newbies and kids (especially staging without going to far forward). My kids I am sure would get used to it but their friends when they visit will find it too tricky and fast. With the AW set there is much more time to get prepared. Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing? Can anyone offer advice? What about setting up your own staging and start system with an Arduino board and a PC?
I'd appreciate any help as I am planning furiously as we speak.
Regards, Damien.
P.S. How come cigarette boxes have Addiction warnings yet AW Drag Racing sets don't?
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Post by kiwidave on Oct 22, 2013 20:23:21 GMT -7
Hey Damo, Where are you? I'm in Masterton. I have a SlotDragon set up!
Cheers Dave.
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Post by damo on Oct 22, 2013 20:42:02 GMT -7
I'm in Ohope Dave, Bay of Plenty. How do you find the Slot Dragon with people who have never used it before?
Cheers, Damo.
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Post by kiwidave on Oct 22, 2013 22:44:46 GMT -7
You do have to explain it!! They understand the Sportsman tree(Auto World type count down)better. But doesn't take people too long to figure the Pro Tree(Slot Dragon type). He's my track using Slot Dragon.
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Post by damo on Oct 22, 2013 23:40:26 GMT -7
That's a cool video, I like it.
Does anyone have a system to suggest that could offer both styles of start? I am going to use this track for an event to promote our slotcar business and people will be getting just a few runs with the winner taking a prize at the end. I will need the easiest system possible for people having just those 3 tries. Does anyone have a good idea about a timing system that would be able to do this? I can't use the AW system of course because there is no timing.
Cheers, Damien.
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Post by kiwidave on Oct 22, 2013 23:59:31 GMT -7
You would need to go to a computer based system. Which is not really practicable! Why not use the AW set and let them do best of 3 races? Maybe do it when you have a group of 10 people. And straight into knock rounds. I used my AW set up for a long time before I got the Slot Dragon system. As long as the two chassis are pretty even it's a good time!
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Post by AJR on Oct 23, 2013 17:25:35 GMT -7
Damo...first of all welcome to Nitroslots. Kiwidave has a great setup and has it dialed in and working well for him. I intially had the Slot Dragon system on my track and although it worked well, I started having trouble with double counts on some cars. I was never able to completely remedy the problem. I do feel that if I had continued working with it, I could have resolved those problems. The .4 second start was also an issue with me and the system is limited. I am currently using a Trackmate Basic timing system that is computer based as kiwidave mentioned. The system itself costs approx. $120 and does need an older computer/laptop that is DOS based and has a Windows 95/98 operating system of which I purchased on Ebay for $80.00 incl. shipping. It supports Sportsman tree as well as Pro tree. It will also do bracket racing which we hope to be running next year. The cars are lined up manually and the tree is on the computer screen and is intitiated with a keystroke. I have yet to experience ANY problems with this system and would recommend it to anyone. More info. on Slot Dragon can be found by clicking on the logo at the bottom of the home page and on the Trackmate by going to www.trackmateracing.com/shop/en/. One other thing. The tech support that I have gotten for both systems has been OUTSTANDING! Hope this helps.
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Post by damo on Oct 24, 2013 11:57:33 GMT -7
Hi,
Thanks for your response. I had looked at Trackmate but it seemed so expensive, not anything like the prices you mentioned. I'll have to look again and look more carefully!
Cheers, Damo
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Post by AJR on Oct 24, 2013 16:20:41 GMT -7
They have 2 other higher end systems too. The one I have is the Trackmate Basic. No way could I afford one of the other's I believe it is still available. On their site it's under Drag Timing Systems. Then about halfway down the page. $119.00. There is no picture, but it's still there.
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Post by dave632 on Jun 9, 2014 20:03:18 GMT -7
I know this is an older post but I have some solutions to some of the problems mentioned. I have an electronics background and I talked to Daniel at slot dragon about some of the double hits and some of them are due to RF generated by the commutator brush noise. Some of my cars did this when I first got the system buy by cleaning all the commutators and installing new brushes it has not happened recently. Daniel had also suggested adding a 100pf capacitor across the photo cells, he also said all the newer systems had them. The other problem is any light getting thru the body will trigger the photo cell prematurely. I had to plug up holes or windows in quite a few cars. The wheelie bars on some of the drag cars also set off the photo cell, once again I had to block the light from getting thru. As far as the .400 tree it takes just a little practice to red light with the quick reactions of the small HO scale cars. I can red light every time if I go when I see the three yellows. I was curious so I tried it. First run .004 green, after that 6 red lights in a row, .095 .096 .079. Then I tried a slightly quicker car and went red with .112 .130 .163. My system is the newer style with .08-.13 delay before the tree lights so you cannot anticipate the tree. When I raced full size cars I used to actually play with the staging as you have 7" to play with. I would shallow stage when I was qualifying as it would give me a few hundredths quicker time. In eliminations I would deep stage to slightly lower my reaction time. With the slot dragon the timer starts after the car uncovers the photo cell so it is different from the full size set up.
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