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Post by GTS on Apr 21, 2020 7:12:14 GMT -7
Could not find any info doing a search here, so was wondering if anyone has used Smooth On Sil-Poxy to glue silicone tires onto wheels. I am aware that they claim it is permanent, which is fine for my needs. Any info is appreciated, thanks. NOTE: I've tried the IC-2000 a number of times and for me, doesn't seem to stick to silicone. I get 1 or 2 runs and then I'm on my hands & knees lookin' for tires again  . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 9:35:57 GMT -7
I haven't tried that. first i have heard of it. nothing I have ever tried bonds to cured silicone except fresh raw silicone. and that hasn't bonded well to wheels. so, I am hoping this is the solution. Sil-Poxy™ is a one-component adhesive made specifically for bonding Smooth-On RTV moldmaking silicone rubbers to silicone rubber and other substrates including some plastics (urethane), plasters/ceramics, fabrics, etc www.smooth-on.com/products/sil-poxy/ |
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Post by GTS on Apr 21, 2020 10:51:13 GMT -7
I hope so too!  Edit: did a little leg work as far as acquiring some. For me; a Smooth On distributor in Kent, WA south of Seattle, (the distributor closed in Walla Walla, WA) has a .5oz tube for $12.20. They have a $20 minimum on line order. Two tubes would be $24.40 plus $14.95 shpng. Plus the Sil-Poxey has a shelf life, don't know how long. There are some.5 oz tubes available on ebay for $24 and up w/free shpng. Might take the gamble and go with ebay, haven't decided yet. Wish I knew for sure if it would work or not  . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 11:49:04 GMT -7
Gale, I just ordered some direct from Smooth on.
they have a facility less than an hour from me, so I should have it by the beginning of next week.
maybe you could wait until I test it?
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Post by ecbill on Apr 21, 2020 13:11:22 GMT -7
A representative from Smooth-On sent me a link to this vendor who she said they own. www.reynoldsam.com/product/A quick look at it show that they do have the Sil-Poxy and many other Smooth-On and casting related materials. They do have a branch in Seattle among several other cities. |
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Post by AJR on Apr 21, 2020 13:38:15 GMT -7
A representative from Smooth-On sent me a link to this vendor who she said they own. www.reynoldsam.com/product/A quick look at it show that they do have the Sil-Poxy and many other Smooth-On and casting related materials. They do have a branch in Seattle among several other cities. That is who I get my Smooth On products here in the DFW area. Reynolds Advanced Materials. They are awesome people to deal with here! |
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Post by GTS on Apr 21, 2020 16:46:59 GMT -7
Gale, I just ordered some direct from Smooth on. they have a facility less than an hour from me, so I should have it by the beginning of next week. maybe you could wait until I test it? Thanks Al, I went ahead and went the ebay route. Found a tube for $21.52 w/free shpng. I've spent more on less . Should see it middle of next week, we'll compare notes .
Yes Bill, thanks, that is the distributor I was mentioning before, www.reynoldsam.com/seattle/ actually just south of Seattle proper in Kent. I will be getting hooked up with them when ordering more mold and casting product beings "Far West Materials" in Walla Walla closed up. It just made my toenails curl, paying more in shipping than cost of product. I don't know if it's just a Washington state thing but they have to ship all their products via UPS with some hazard thingie and that gets the shipping up there. Some how I seem to be able to justify that hefty shipping when it's multiple gallon's of product .
On another note, I tried some black Permatex with some tires and wheels this afternoon. Gonna let them cure up overnite and give 'em a go tomorrow. If I could get a half dozen runs before they let loose, that would be an improvement . I'll report back tomorrow. |
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Post by ecbill on Apr 21, 2020 17:57:05 GMT -7
That’s good to know. When I reached out to Smooth-On they sent me a replacement kit, which they certainly were under no obligation to do. Turns out the stuff I had was made in 2016.
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Post by dave632 on Apr 21, 2020 19:54:39 GMT -7
I had no luck with the IC2000 either and found it not as good as Super Glue Gel for pretty much anything. I would never buy it again.
Will be watching to see if the Smooth on is any good. Holding tires on at 40+ MPH is tough.
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Post by gnome on Apr 22, 2020 7:00:42 GMT -7
Never used sil poxy but have had good luck with the black permatex i use a q tip and aply it to bolth the wheel and the inside of the tire put it together and clean all excess. Look forward to your results
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Post by GTS on Apr 22, 2020 19:35:28 GMT -7
Never used sil poxy but have had good luck with the black permatex i use a q tip and aply it to bolth the wheel and the inside of the tire put it together and clean all excess. Look forward to your results I only applied to the rim. I tried it out on the dyno tonite and the tire left the rim at about 22vdc. As near as I could tell the Permatex appeared to have stuck to the tire but not the rim. The rim/wheel was a chrome 4gear Jag wheel. Thinkin' the wheel might need mounted in the dremel and put some grooves in it. Don't really want to sand it because of making it smaller in diameter. Got some more experiments curing at present and will give those a go in the next few days. Thanks for the input, gnome!
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Post by nosubfor3 on Apr 23, 2020 3:22:57 GMT -7
Never used sil poxy but have had good luck with the black permatex i use a q tip and aply it to bolth the wheel and the inside of the tire put it together and clean all excess. Look forward to your results I only applied to the rim. I tried it out on the dyno tonite and the tire left the rim at about 22vdc. As near as I could tell the Permatex appeared to have stuck to the tire but not the rim. The rim/wheel was a chrome 4gear Jag wheel. Thinkin' the wheel might need mounted in the dremel and put some grooves in it. Don't really want to sand it because of making it smaller in diameter. Got some more experiments curing at present and will give those a go in the next few days. Thanks for the input, gnome!
Before you groove.Sand/scuff enough to take the shine off ther chrome. Clean surface and reglue. |
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Post by GTS on Apr 23, 2020 6:22:16 GMT -7
I only applied to the rim. I tried it out on the dyno tonite and the tire left the rim at about 22vdc. As near as I could tell the Permatex appeared to have stuck to the tire but not the rim. The rim/wheel was a chrome 4gear Jag wheel. Thinkin' the wheel might need mounted in the dremel and put some grooves in it. Don't really want to sand it because of making it smaller in diameter. Got some more experiments curing at present and will give those a go in the next few days. Thanks for the input, gnome!
Before you groove.Sand/scuff enough to take the shine off ther chrome. Clean surface and reglue. Thanks! Will give it a go! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 13:42:38 GMT -7
good news at last.
looks like a run to the auto parts store is in my near future.
could you be more specific about exactly which black Permatex?
the number on the tube?
there are a couple I found online.
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Post by nosubfor3 on Apr 23, 2020 15:11:06 GMT -7
Here's some results from a couple tests, concerning the use of black Permatex. This is a pic of the permatex on a tire that I almost tore in two trying to see if the permatex had stuck to it. I just globbed a bit on it and let it cure over nite. It is stuck like chuck, won't come off. And here's a short lil' video testing some black Jag 4 gear wheels that I used. I'm sure there are better application methods but all I did was sparingly put the Permatex on the wheel with a toothpick, put the tire on and cleaned up the squish out on the back side with a Q-tip. Let it cure over nite. I started at 6.2 volts and took it up to 22.7vdc. No loosening of the tire. I'm happy . I'm pretty sure the chrome was the culprit on the previous test but will be testing further.
After you apply the permatex and mount the tire. Spin the tire a full turn to even out the glue. Then clean up the glue that seeps out around the bead. |
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