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Post by rickvoegelin on Sept 18, 2010 7:44:49 GMT -7
The tech crew at Lions Drag Strip (admittedly not the sharpest knives in the drawer) hassled Ninjatek about the dual-flange Delrin wheels on his Stockers. But it's been pointed out that the rule is a little vague on what are legal wheels in Stock:
The rule states: "Wheels: Only plastic T jet or T jet sized wheels are permitted. "
The Lions tech guys interpreted this to mean only stock or stock-replacement T-jet plastic wheels are allowed, but Ninjatek interpreted it to mean that any aftermarket plastic (Delrin) wheel that duplicates the stock dimensions is OK.
So how about a ruling from the Tech Committee?
Thanks,
Rick V.
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Post by SKR on Sept 18, 2010 9:41:28 GMT -7
John B. is still out (see quote below). I think the intention was to run original stock skinny Aurora T-Jet wheels. How does everybody else interpret this rule? I could make a ruling but would rather here what the racers have to say and go with the majority who reply. I don't want the rule to be re-written but would like to know how you guys interpreted the rule and what your were planning on sending. I want to apoligize for my long absence. I still love drag racing, T jets and slots (ho size) in general. Time constraints, family issues, and my own health have become more than distractions. Medication I am taking leaves my energies lower than expected. I will take a few weeks to settle myself, and see if I can rekindle my enthusiasm that you guys deserve. Meanwhile, you guys who participate the most, are what keeps interest in NTRA and Psychoslots itself going. They both are YOUR organizations in reality, tho SAM 's name is at the top as owner of the site. I have read that HO World is coming to an end so PSYCHOSLOTS may become an even more inportant hub for HO 'ers. In the mean time, you guys have provided me hours of pleasureable exchange, and thought provoking discussion as well. Hopefully my hiatus will be brief. |
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Post by eddiebee on Sept 18, 2010 11:43:32 GMT -7
I figured stock. That's what is on both my cars.
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Post by kdog on Sept 18, 2010 12:09:17 GMT -7
I stripped the chrome from orignal T Jet wheels and painted them black, with clear coat than glued the Wizzard skinny silicones on.
Even if you just leave them chrome the clear silicon glue is important, nothing worse than a DNF due to a loose tire
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Post by nosubfor3 on Sept 18, 2010 12:50:34 GMT -7
The tech crew at Lions Drag Strip (admittedly not the sharpest knives in the drawer) hassled Ninjatek about the dual-flange Delrin wheels on his Stockers. But it's been pointed out that the rule is a little vague on what are legal wheels in Stock: The rule states: "Wheels: Only plastic T jet or T jet sized wheels are permitted. " The Lions tech guys interpreted this to mean only stock or stock-replacement T-jet plastic wheels are allowed, but Ninjatek interpreted it to mean that any aftermarket plastic (Delrin) wheel that duplicates the stock dimensions is OK. So how about a ruling from the Tech Committee? Thanks, Rick V. What are stock replacement? Vincent, RRR, MEV wheels.If the tires and wheels are the correct width and hight then let em race.The only wheels that should not be allowed are metal screw on's. Just my 2 cents... |
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Post by rickvoegelin on Sept 18, 2010 21:06:24 GMT -7
I understood the rule to mean stock T-jet plastic rims, similar to Kdog's interpretation. To be honest, the stock wheels are pretty crummy, and really could use an outside flange to keep the tire from coming off unless it's glued to the hub. But it's a legacy class, so if that's how the cars came from Aurora, that's how we should race 'em.
I take my inspiration from the great Stocker battles of the '60s, when Jere Stahl's Hemi Plymouth was racing Grumpy Jenkins' Nova for Top Stock honors. They were running painted steel rims back then -- but just a couple of years later, the Stockers were using Cragars, Keystones, American mags, and other aftermarket wheels, so I guess that means that JW, RTHO, and A.J.'s Delrin wheels would be acceptable for our HO versions.
I'm fine with whatever the Tech Committee and the Psychoslots community wants, I just want to make sure that I understand the intent of the original wording of the rule for the upcoming NTRA Finals. Sorry to hear that John B. is going through some hard times, he was a guiding light for this group and I hope he'll be back soon.
Thanks,
Rick V.
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Post by 440gtx on Sept 18, 2010 22:33:44 GMT -7
From the original discussions about the stock class rules, I was under the impression that we were going to run the stock chrome wheels. The way that the rules were written, I believe that the "t-jet sized" delrin wheels are fair game.
I plan to run the stock wheels on both of my cars.
Matt
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Post by nosubfor3 on Sept 19, 2010 5:22:25 GMT -7
From the original discussions about the stock class rules, I was under the impression that we were going to run the stock chrome wheels. The way that the rules were written, I believe that the "t-jet sized" delrin wheels are fair game. I plan to run the stock wheels on both of my cars. Matt[/quote Look at the T/T results between eddiebee GTX with stock chrome rims (Eddiebee's green GTX. The Mopar powered to a best of 2.320/4.70 mph) and Ninjatecs Chevelle burgundy big-block clocked in at 2.315/4.61 mph with Derlin rims. How close is close? |
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Post by eddiebee on Sept 19, 2010 8:48:07 GMT -7
Too bad we only had a couple cars to go by. I'm letting my 2 cars stock.
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Post by SKR on Sept 19, 2010 16:03:52 GMT -7
Sounds like as long as they are the correct size.... stock or delrin then we will let them fly. I think this sounds good since the rules are not clear and there are different interpretations. Does anybody have any issues with this? Please let it be known.  |
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Post by kdog on Sept 20, 2010 11:47:04 GMT -7
Works for me, I like the double flange wheels best, betwen the 2
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Post by derwood16 on Sept 20, 2010 14:54:01 GMT -7
I would be ok with both wheels for this race but would like to see the rule to be only stock crome wheels NO delrins in this class.
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Post by SKR on Sept 23, 2010 19:18:34 GMT -7
I agree with Derwood. Maybe a revision after this race is needed to the rules to run stock skinny Aurora wheels only.
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Post by johnbalich on Oct 25, 2010 8:30:56 GMT -7
I am sure you guys have long settled this issue, but I'll just add my two cents from afar. The wording on Stock rims............"Wheels: Only plastic T jet or T jet sized wheels are permitted. " aws intended to allow only T jet profiled wheels..I.e. original stock or thye stock DUPLICATES that I believe are available from MEV. As i said, Im sure you guys have made a ruling............but just a bit of insight to my thinking at THAT TIME. No matter how carefully the rules are written there will ALWAYS be race weekend interpretations required! Read more: psychoslots.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=scl&action=display&thread=2022&page=1#ixzz13NvHCBot |
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Post by rickvoegelin on Oct 25, 2010 11:53:43 GMT -7
I am sure you guys have long settled this issue, but I'll just add my two cents from afar. The wording on Stock rims............"Wheels: Only plastic T jet or T jet sized wheels are permitted. " aws intended to allow only T jet profiled wheels..I.e. original stock or thye stock DUPLICATES that I believe are available from MEV. As i said, Im sure you guys have made a ruling............but just a bit of insight to my thinking at THAT TIME. No matter how carefully the rules are written there will ALWAYS be race weekend interpretations required! Read more: psychoslots.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=scl&action=display&thread=2022&page=1#ixzz13NvHCBotIt was interesting that although dual-flange Delrin aftermarket wheels were provisionally legal for the NTRA Finals, all of the top-running cars used traditional Aurora T-jet plastic wheels. Some guys stripped the chrome off and painted them, some were still chrome-plated. There were no MEV wheels as I recall, and one set of RRR wheels, which were not technically legal but the inspectors let them slide for this race. We did have problems with tires coming off the T-jet wheels on several cars when the tires were not glued to the wheels, although this happened more frequently in handling the cars than during a race. I think that going forward, there was general agreement that only original Aurora T-jet rims and MEV replacements will be legal for Stock in future NTRA races (Ninjatek/Sam, correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks, Rick V. |
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