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Post by AJR on Aug 24, 2014 17:54:06 GMT -7
SJ I just sent a PM. If you let me know the diameter you prefer I can see what I have. I have a pretty good selection of Jel Claws in verious diameters. Or you can try someone elses. We can get you taken care of either way. All classes require black tires.
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Post by AJR on Aug 24, 2014 18:01:17 GMT -7
:D12 DAYS TILL THE 2014 LABOR DAY NATIONALS  ANYBODY GOT ANY PICS??**Race is now closed to any new Match races**
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Post by pceng on Aug 24, 2014 20:32:45 GMT -7
I just checked my inventory all I have are cow tires for the street class and not sure if I ordered any if they'd reach in time. Is that O.K or will I be disqualified? SJ I've got a pair you can use if need be,I dont know how many cars your going to race. But your welcome to the pair I've got. Ill send them with the cars if you want. Let me know. Better take the offer. All NTRA classes require black tires. Thought black tire rule applied to slip-on tires..... ? ...... Peter |
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Post by ninjatek on Aug 24, 2014 23:03:44 GMT -7
Thought black tire rule applied to slip-on tires..... ? ...... Peter Could not find declaration or ruling, but in this case we are talking about slip-ons. In pass races at Drag City USA, Racemaster announced that any color tire allowed for MM/PS. Outside of those races black tires are required. |
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Post by AJR on Aug 25, 2014 3:21:39 GMT -7
My understanding through rules and discussion over the years is that all tires were to be black. Peter I remember having the discussion about your MM/PS which has silly foams. You were allowed to run the different colors at that time, but it was only that class. I think yours were the only ones that weren't black. But it was also promoted that they should be black. Let's not stir the pot here. Tires will need to be black.
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Post by pceng on Aug 25, 2014 6:45:36 GMT -7
My understanding through rules and discussion over the years is that all tires were to be black. Peter I remember having the discussion about your MM/PS which has silly foams. You were allowed to run the different colors at that time, but it was only that class. I think yours were the only ones that weren't black. But it was also promoted that they should be black. Let's not stir the pot here. Tires will need to be black. Minor corrections........... we did briefly discuss sili-foams before Ja n. race. Just prior to the race it was stated by RM "Black tires only". You , and I joked about using magic markers on our tires if you recall. It has never been promoted for the MM/PS classs and has only been required at this one and only event. A month later I proposed we allow timing advances as an experiment so we could compare differences. This was frowned upon because it would mean changing rules before a race...... even though a month earlier it was ok. Not long ago a number of us discussed rules for next season. Had hoped that we would have got more into details (such as tires). But unfortunatly that did not happen. In truth it seemed as if some wanted nothing to do with it , or didn't care what happened. Based on their errrrr....... non-imput. Soon , we should have a preview of what is going to be and points of intrest will be discussed. Hope more take an active part...... and all is set in stone well in advance of next season.. Not trying to stir things up........ just pointing out the black tire thing is not required in every NTRA class. All but the MM/PS. ......... Peter |
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Post by dave632 on Aug 25, 2014 11:39:56 GMT -7
Got back from Vegas and was looking at the rules for T/F. Would have liked to enter something. There seem to be no classes for the standard AFX style chassis??? Why is that?? Everything is 4 gear except for the T jets which only have 2. Only one for inlines which are the majority of today's HO style cars??? Please direct me to any classes that support 3 gear AFX style cars, if any, or anything besides 4 gear other than what I mentioned.
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Post by ninjatek on Aug 25, 2014 13:06:35 GMT -7
Please direct me to any classes that support 3 gear AFX style cars, if any, or anything besides 4 gear other than what I mentioned. Right now the only class to run a 3-gear AFX is Pro Street. Pro StreetIt is thought by some that the AFX chassis is superior to the currently more common AW/JL X-Traction chassis. When Street Class was created it was thought best to only use AW/JL versions due to their readily availability and they are still in current production. When Pro Street was created it openned the door to allow AFX chassis. Shortly following the creation on Pro Street and a few 4-G classes a freeze or lock was imposed. At the time the rate at which classes were being created, the number of classes will have outpaced the number of active participants in a couple of years. Hopefully, new rules for 2015 wil see more usage of the lesser used chassis. |
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Post by dave632 on Aug 25, 2014 13:54:46 GMT -7
Personally I have had no trouble getting the older AFX 3 gear chassis. There are thousands available right now on e bay. I must have a hundred myself. I could pick up many chassis right now for 1 to 10 dollars apiece depending how complete I wanted them. I bought about 25 recently in various stages of completion for a dollar each. I have plenty of the newer inlines and older AFX. I have few of the 4 gear which in my opinion is the slowest of all the chassis. That is why I bought few of them.
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Post by AJR on Aug 25, 2014 14:59:42 GMT -7
Dave the 4 gear chassis is probably our most popular chassis at this time....and they're not slow either. We've got them moving down the track pretty well. Unfortunately Pro Street will not be running for the remainder of the season. But there are still two events running tjet classes. How are you set on those?
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Post by dave632 on Aug 25, 2014 15:26:52 GMT -7
All of my T jets are modified in some way. I will probably be able to get some going in the SS class when the next one come around. I notice the 4 gears are given 26 volts in some classes, this will surely make them run quicker. I also realize there are mods to these that I do not know.
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Post by AJR on Aug 25, 2014 16:10:26 GMT -7
The 4g that are running on 26v are the unlimited (highly modified) and Top Fuel (moderatley modified). Unlimited needs that voltage(amps)to run properly. Top Fuel was more to make it faster than the M/FC which is basically the same build and runs at 24v. Need higher volts (amps) to make those run as well. They are mean greens with poly mags. Doorslammers run at 18v. Pretty much the same setup with ceramic mags. Then stock which runs at 13.8.
Street runs at 13.8v and Pro Street at 18v. The 4g and the 3g chassis are not far off one another at comprable voltages and builds.
Tjet Leadsled is running at the Curse of the Hearse in October and Nostalgia Pro Stock tjet at the Finals in Nov. Break out those tjets and enter both of those. That would be great! Also N/FC 4g runs in Nov. too. One of your 4g gears would be legal for that one. Give it a try.
Like Ninja said next year I think the door could possibly open up for the older AFX 3g stuff.
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Post by SKR on Aug 25, 2014 17:14:20 GMT -7
JJ, do the cars need to be there on or before the 3rd or 4th?
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Post by AJR on Aug 25, 2014 18:36:37 GMT -7
JJ, do the cars need to be there on or before the 3rd or 4th?
Cars need to be here on or before Thursday the 4th. Do not forget about the Labor Day holiday slowing up mail delivery! Race will begin early Friday morning.
Only 11 days left!!
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Post by SKR on Aug 25, 2014 18:40:59 GMT -7
Thanks JJ.
Cordell, put me on the list for Street and one FED.
Hopefully I'll get a MT/F together this weekend. I might have a second FED as well. I built it over the weekend, just haven't tested yet.
Thanks
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