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Post by JW on Sept 11, 2014 7:41:34 GMT -7
I know there is a few threads regarding this but couple of questions regarding the slot dragon timing system. Does this system have a qualifying feature where the red light is disregarded? Also is there any real difference between the SD and SD2? thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 9:50:20 GMT -7
SD will not give ET on a red light and you can not change or disable that.
SD2 will now give reaction time on red lights and ET.
in addition the start of the three yellow light sequence is now random where before it was a set period after both cars had staged.
also, the very first editions of SD started the ET when the green light lit, now, later SD and all SD2 start ET when the car uncovers the stage sensor.
deep(very deep) staging is still possible which can dramatically lower RTs and increase ETs
all SDand SD2 versions only run Pro light.
three light Sportsman light is no available.
anything else?
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Post by JW on Sept 11, 2014 15:41:29 GMT -7
Does anyone know if the track mate 2000ho has a "qualifying" setting?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 16:43:09 GMT -7
What exactly are you looking for regarding a qualifying setting?
Thank you
Alan @ R&D Racing
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Post by JW on Sept 11, 2014 18:17:36 GMT -7
R&D, from what I gather, most scale drag racing programs/modules do not have a "qualifying" setting. So what I'm looking for is a way to turn off the "red light" feature just for qualifying. At present we do a best of 5 runs for qualifying and if you go "red" there is no time given and that counts as 1 run. I believe in NHRA during qualifying your ET still counts even if you red light, that is what I'm looking for. Hope this makes sense . thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 18:37:04 GMT -7
Not sure if my Trackmate has that feature or not. It's been a while since I set it up but I did recall it has many features to select from. I will check it out this weekend as I will be working on the track.
Alan
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Post by AJR on Sept 11, 2014 19:11:28 GMT -7
My Trackmate Basic will give you an E.T. whether you go red or not.
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Post by SKR on Sept 11, 2014 19:27:54 GMT -7
DP2000 & 3000 will give you ET's with a red light.
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Post by JW on Sept 12, 2014 5:58:00 GMT -7
Thanks for the input all. Guess I'll have to save some coin to get the trackmate system... until then will have to run what i got.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 7:20:34 GMT -7
just my thoughts.
the Basic Trackmate system does about the same thing as the Slot Dragon system for about the same cost
EXCEPT ......
Trackmate needs to be loaded on a computer, so that will be an additional expense (although a lot of us have an old laptop sitting around doing nothing), and might be able to run a sportsmans 3 light tree although I am unsure of dial-in bracket type ETs.
SlotDragon is a complete, standalone computer with easy plug in components, one of which is a christmas tree, that assembles and disassembles quickly and easily for portability if desired. it is only capable of Pro tree heads up starts.
I am not recommending one or the other.
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Post by JW on Sept 12, 2014 7:38:47 GMT -7
I would prefer the SD system for it's convenience, ease of setup and cost but wish it would record the ET even after a red light... Also pro tree is all i want, never did care for bracket racing, just don't understand holding anything back when drag racing. lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 7:51:04 GMT -7
index racing is racing to stay within a timed parameter and still get to the finish first.
so, holding back some might be necessary, but it is still heads up start.
bracket racing is racing cars of different abilities against one another by staggering the starting light and the fast car gets a delayed start.
if both cars were to have identical reaction times and run exactly on their dial-in, the race would be a tie.
I don't care for index racing, but bracket racing can be a lot of fun and everyone can compete regardless of the size of their wallet.
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Post by AJR on Sept 12, 2014 12:07:26 GMT -7
I have had the pleasure of owning and using both timing systems. I have never used any Trackmate above the Basic system though. In my humble opinion both have their place and both have advantages and disadvantages. The ONLY disadvantage of the Trackmate if you want to call it that is that you do need a computer to run it. But I was able to pick up an older laptop for around $50. I have not had ANY problems with the performance of the Trackmate system. It has performed flawlessly with ANY type or style of car. The Basic does allow for Bracket racing which as Dragl said is an all out race just with staggered starts....no holding back. We have run 3 Bracket races through the forum now and they were a big success. Great turnout in all three because we allowed any chassis. Slot Dragon does not have that feature. I also had trouble with double counting when running open bodied cars or dragsters with the SD. I never was able to correct that. Real problem with me because I run all types of cars. The SD system did seem to work very well with the stock or near stock full bodied builds. SD utilizes optical sensors and the Trackmate utilizes IR sensors. Both systems definitely have their place and both are backed very well. I thought this might help. I am currently using the Trackmate Basic.
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Post by dave632 on Sept 12, 2014 14:53:27 GMT -7
I am about to purchase the Trackmate 3000HO system for my track. It has many features the Slot dragon does not have including, pro and bracket tree, pre stage light, 60', 1/8th mile times and mph.
I currently have the SD2 system which works well and I highly recommend it as a starter system.
It does give a time on a red light but it does start the system when the sensor is uncovered. This allows a shorter car or a deep staged one to react quicker.
I was the person who contacted Daniel at slot dragon and told him of the problem with a constant time between the stage and the yellow coming on. I spotted the problem as soon as I watched the demo. It has since been changed to a random time to eliminate knowing exactly when the yellow would come on. Daniel contacted me when he upgraded the system which is when I purchased it.
I raced many years on full size tracks as far back when they had a flag man to start the races. NHRA and most tracks once used a starter to start the tree after staging. If you want to get aggravated try waiting for some nut starter waiting 3-4 seconds to drop the tree while you are sitting with your hi dollar engine screaming on the brake at 6000 rpm. Now it is electronically done with a computer and you never will sit for 3-4 seconds.
Bracket racing has it's place in drag racing as it low dollar when to compared to high dollar heads up racing. Most tracks have a weekly bracket program. I was never a big fan of it but most who race that way do it for many years. Bracket races draws few spectators however whereas heads up races draw big crowds. When I get my system going I will most likely host a bracket race in the future.
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Post by dave632 on Sept 12, 2014 15:15:22 GMT -7
Just as a comparison of interest in types of racing. Here is the Beretta I had leaving the line on a pass, 60' in the 1.0 range. There was a big crowd there when we ran these heads up cars.  Here is a shot of a 68 Camaro I had. It did wheelies but the 60' was in the 1.20 range. Very small spectator crowd when running a bracket car. Fun car to drive, ran mid 8s @ 150+ in the 1/4 with some juice but was much slower than the Beretta.  |
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