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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 22:46:36 GMT -7
I think it was Tyco that had the HO wheel standing slot cars. It would be great if we could see some new releases of wheel standing cars. I know I'd sure get a kick out of watching them run down the strip. I wonder if there's any NOS cars left around someplace; or at least some still around in good condition and priced reasonably ? ....Terry Now where did I leave my Little Red Wagon ? ........
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Post by pceng on Nov 17, 2014 7:22:42 GMT -7
I think it was Tyco that had the HO wheel standing slot cars. It would be great if we could see some new releases of wheel standing cars. I know I'd sure get a kick out of watching them run down the strip. I wonder if there's any NOS cars left around someplace; or at least some still around in good condition and priced reasonably ? ....Terry Now where did I leave my Little Red Wagon ? ........ Hey Terry, Was a thread about this someplace......... similar to Tyco set up. Bodies hing on rear axle from bracket glued into body. Bracket has notches into axle pockets. Like the way rear ends snap into inline chassis. Front wheels glued to body. Whole body tries to come off during acceleration. And is dragged along by rear axle. Personally I , have more fun getting t-jet types to do wheelies. Using swing arm and pick up springs glued to chassis. ......... Peter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 9:55:14 GMT -7
I think it was Tyco that had the HO wheel standing slot cars. It would be great if we could see some new releases of wheel standing cars. I know I'd sure get a kick out of watching them run down the strip. I wonder if there's any NOS cars left around someplace; or at least some still around in good condition and priced reasonably ? ....Terry Now where did I leave my Little Red Wagon ? ........ Hey Terry, Was a thread about this someplace......... similar to Tyco set up. Bodies hing on rear axle from bracket glued into body. Bracket has notches into axle pockets. Like the way rear ends snap into inline chassis. Front wheels glued to body. Whole body tries to come off during acceleration. And is dragged along by rear axle. Personally I , have more fun getting t-jet types to do wheelies. Using swing arm and pick up springs glued to chassis. ......... Peter That sounds like a really interesting solution with the t-jets Peter; I'll have to look into this much further. This could open up a whole new dimension to HO drag racing fun !
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Post by dave632 on Nov 17, 2014 14:57:53 GMT -7
I still have 2 of the Tyco wheelstanders. Both are silver in color, one says Hawk on the hood and the other Cobra. I also have the special pickups that they used to allow the front end to leave the ground on the T jet and AFX cars. I will install a set and try to get some pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 17:30:23 GMT -7
I still have 2 of the Tyco wheelstanders. Both are silver in color, one says Hawk on the hood and the other Cobra. I also have the special pickups that they used to allow the front end to leave the ground on the T jet and AFX cars. I will install a set and try to get some pictures. Great Dave, I'd love to see those. Thanks, ....Terry
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Post by dave632 on Nov 17, 2014 19:54:08 GMT -7
Terry, I found those Tyco wheelstanders. I think there was a weight in the rear which has been removed that made them stand up easily. The front wheels are attached to the body so the pickup can stay in the groove. Here are some pictures of them and a shot of the special pickup that allows AFX and T jet cars to wheelie. Note how it wraps around the pickup joint so as not to fall out. As Peter mentioned you have to glue your springs in so they don't fall out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 20:57:28 GMT -7
Terry, I found those Tyco wheelstanders. I think there was a weight in the rear which has been removed that made them stand up easily. The front wheels are attached to the body so the pickup can stay in the groove. Here are some pictures of them and a shot of the special pickup that allows AFX and T jet cars to wheelie. Note how it wraps around the pickup joint so as not to fall out. As Peter mentioned you have to glue your springs in so they don't fall out.
Very Cool Dave, thanks for posting. ....Terry
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Post by pceng on Nov 18, 2014 8:04:40 GMT -7
Hey Dave, Intresting the pick-ups (swing arm) for pancake. Never saw one shaped like that. Is it aftermarket , homemade maybe ? ..... Peter
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Post by kdog on Nov 18, 2014 9:33:29 GMT -7
Hey Dave, Intresting the pick-ups (swing arm) for pancake. Never saw one shaped like that. Is it aftermarket , homemade maybe ? ..... Peter Here is a photo of my Little Red Wagon with the AJ's T Jet Wheelie kit installed. It is unique in that only the pickups, and guide pin stay on the track, the whole body and chassis does the wheelstand. I hope to get to a point that a full track wheelie is possible if so I'll try to post a video in the upcoming months. I found this AJ's kit on eBay but they are tough to find, a friend made his own using stock T Jet pickups, but don't know if he ever completed it sorry to say we lost Lonnie last month. I'll keep pluging away on my truck, and hope to have a Doug's Headers truck as well.
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Post by pceng on Nov 18, 2014 10:36:59 GMT -7
Thanks for posting , Kdog. Didn't know AJ's ever made kit.
Couple of things that might help that full track pass are shunt wires and weight. Pick-ups dangling from hangers and passing a good flow of electric is what I found biggest drawback. Shunts cured this immediately (braided wire for flex). Started making these 50ish years ago (with electric tape), just dawned on me recently to use shunts.
Weight can be added to rear or weight transfer can be made. Mercury works best in these but needs to be a sealed system.
Years ago had 16 ohm t-jets doing full pass kind of (straights on circuit tracks), but with weights. Now I just play around and see what different arms will do. I like when they launch with the wheels in the air. Think it looks cool.
....... Peter
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Post by dave632 on Nov 18, 2014 13:55:47 GMT -7
Those pickups were purchased about 40 years ago, I doubt they are still available. If I can get one of them working I will try to get some photos of it in action.
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Post by vintagetin50 on Nov 18, 2014 21:33:59 GMT -7
TYCO PRO was a brass pan chassis made by TYCO in the 70's . There was several versions including on with wheelie capabilities .
I have several TYCO PROS but not 1 with the hinged chassis . I'm not certaing but Riggen might have had a wheelie chassis as well .
Tom
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Post by dave632 on Nov 18, 2014 22:11:20 GMT -7
The two Tyco cars shown in the pictures both run pretty well having top speeds in the 17mph range at 20v which is pretty good for these stock inlines. They will occasionally do a wheelie right at the end of my strip when, I guess, enough air gets under them and it lifts the body. I also agree that wheelies are cool and I always liked cars that did it. It does not help ET however. My 68 Camaro was a good wheelstander but I know it would have run quicker not doing it. Bystanders liked it though. The Beretta would only pull the wheels about 4" as it left the line. It's 60' was about .2 quicker than the Camaro, which is like night and day.
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Post by dave632 on Nov 19, 2014 18:37:44 GMT -7
Here is a shot of my Camaro. As you can see it liked to stand up at the start. 60' in the 1.27 range. Here is the Beretta, small wheelie with most of the energy going into forward motion, 60' in the 1.07 range:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 19:16:16 GMT -7
It would be cool to convert the S'cool Bus to a wheel stander; and also customize a second one to be a Prison Bus wheel stander to race each other. The S'cool Bus sits on that nice 4 gear chassis and can be bought new for only $ 15. You can't go wrong for that price ! ....Terry
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