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Post by Phantom B.S.E. on Feb 15, 2015 10:31:43 GMT -7
Okay fellows serious about rewinding, just having fun. The new N3 build for the Modern Funny Car allows custom inline winds with timing. I don't know about y'all but it sounds like fun to me. The N3 also allows factory arms. So you will also being going against the best factory winds. So build two cars one factory and one with your custom. That is just in case your custom does not fair to well..... 
The trickiest thing about picking out an arm for this class is the fact that it can not OHM lower then 3 OHMs and just about all custom arms out there OHM lower than that, so winding your own could be a real good advantage. 
I built one of my new Modern Funny Car chassises last night and plan on gathering some parts this week
for a second. Only thing I don't know yet is if there are any rules in place about bodies or weight?
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Post by Eagle Racing on Feb 15, 2015 10:51:21 GMT -7
Tom I agree I wish the rule was 2.5 ohm. That way racers could use the Slot Tech factory wind that is like 2.7 ohm I think and is already timed. It is not a real expensive arm either. I think is like $20. This could be a real fast class with the right setup and some racer creativity. It is kind of like a restricted open class. For those guys that have wanted to run any inline chassis this class is it.
Maybe our great leader would amend rule and make it 2.5ohm so these type factory arms would be allowed. It is not like anyone has anything built yet. Now is the time to change it. What do some of you other racers think? |
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Post by Eagle Racing on Feb 15, 2015 10:54:04 GMT -7
The way I read rules is no weight limit. Of course hard bodies. AW funny car bodies would be easy to adapt to any chassis.
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Post by pceng on Feb 15, 2015 11:17:29 GMT -7
I believe N2 has ohm restriction....... 3 ohm listed I assume is a range.ment to include green wire arms as with mm/ps.
No problems with having ohm restrictions here. I believe it would make it easier for all to join in.
IMO, it would be best to start with an established class instead of a fledgling class. Lets make NTF 5 ohm and see.if it works.
......... Peter
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Post by pceng on Feb 15, 2015 11:35:00 GMT -7
Thinking about it wouldn't that just make N2 & N3 the same ? Just run N2 fc's. And no fuss.
....... Peter
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Post by Phantom B.S.E. on Feb 15, 2015 11:40:51 GMT -7
Thinking about it wouldn't that just make N2 & N3 the same ? Just run N2 fc's. And no fuss. ....... Peter |
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Post by Phantom B.S.E. on Feb 15, 2015 11:42:38 GMT -7
I believe N2 has ohm restriction....... 3 ohm listed I assume is a range.ment to include green wire arms as with mm/ps. No problems with having ohm restrictions here. I believe it would make it easier for all to join in. IMO, it would be best to start with an established class instead of a fledgling class. Lets make NTF 5 ohm and see.if it works. ......... Peter |
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Post by AJR on Feb 15, 2015 12:13:25 GMT -7
Thinking about it wouldn't that just make N2 & N3 the same ? Just run N2 fc's. And no fuss. ....... Peter Actually Tom both N2 and N3 allow for any motor or traction magnet from what I read. Only differences I can see is N3 allows for custom winds ,brushes that do not fit into stock mounts, and minimum voltage is different. I agree with a rule change allowing for arms 2.5 ohm or higher. I see no weight limits on ANY classes listed anymore....so the sky is the limit as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by pceng on Feb 15, 2015 12:17:29 GMT -7
Thinking about it wouldn't that just make N2 & N3 the same ? Just run N2 fc's. And no fuss. ....... Peter Correct ............ so why make them the same in terms of ohm restrictions......... if you think N/TF should be 5ohm with timing I understand. Whats good for one is good for another ! |
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Post by Eagle Racing on Feb 15, 2015 12:19:07 GMT -7
N3 allows custom winds and N2 does not, but with same ohm restrictions as N2. N/TF is already a great class just like it is and has nothing to do with what we are trying to discuss. My thinking was to try and allow the factory arms like the Slot Tech or any other factory arm that ohms just a little bit lower made legal. However it is most likely best to just keep it like it is.
Tom I look forward to seeing your inline Modern Funny Cars and what you have done to them. I know Jeff will have a killer setup. |
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Post by Phantom B.S.E. on Feb 15, 2015 12:40:58 GMT -7
My mistake on N3, still look forward to Modern Funny Car at the 2015 SUMMER NATIONALS.
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Post by Phantom B.S.E. on Feb 15, 2015 12:56:22 GMT -7
N3 allows any motor & traction mags and N2 doen't. Correct ............ so why make them the same in terms of ohm restrictions......... if you think N/TF should be 5ohm with timing I understand. Whats good for one is good for another !
That would take the unlimited outlaw part out of the class and I feel this class works
fine as it is already. Besides there are lots of resent post about guys wanting to get into the arm winding biz and N/TF and the new Modern Funny Car classes are perfect for that kind of builder.
Also guys remember just because a class is listed doesn't mean you have to run it, you should run what you feel like running and have fun. Just like the next race is hosting Pro Street and I won't be running in that class since I don't have a car ready for it or the time to test and tune one. But I do still support the idea of having the Pro Street class. |
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Post by pceng on Mar 4, 2015 11:38:29 GMT -7
Hey Lewis,
From using calculator posted in this thread....... 4' of 33g wire should be 0.414 per pole.
....... Peter
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Post by lewis on Mar 4, 2015 16:27:46 GMT -7
I need to find somewhere to buy some arms I guess I will stay with Dan.
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Post by pceng on Mar 4, 2015 17:49:09 GMT -7
$40.- for a custom sounds better than 50 or 60. Rewinding is not hard. When you get down to it....... it's just winding wire. Using resistance calculator & parallel resitance links in this thread make guage and lenght of wire easy to figure.
........ Peter
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