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Post by pceng on Feb 5, 2015 10:13:23 GMT -7
I agree with the weight I read it the other day when you posted it. You would think weight would slow them down not speed them up. I have read almost every post on here lol have alot of time waiting on shippers to load and unload trucks. I'm not sure about the pancake cars so it will probably be a while before I mess with them but I am defiantly gonn try to have some I inlines in thin fall and at the next unlimited race. I'm gonna email the guy over state again and see about the power supply amperage also Lewis, inlines cars came out about 10yrs after the pancake. Thought the cars operate differently. The same prrincipals apply to each. Learning everything there is to know (may never end) might come quicker with a stock pancake. Reasons being the complexity of the pancake. And everything you can do to a slow car to make it faster. Will only make a faster car faster than it was when same principles are applied. Little things that become habit can get.overlooked when making changes that involve jumps in performance. These.little.things.make a big difference between cars that have the same parts. ......... Peter |
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Post by lewis on Feb 5, 2015 10:31:49 GMT -7
I understand that. I was actually just rebuilding a starter yesterday and while looking at the starter I was thinking about the inline cars. These little cars are essentially a tiny starter. I was thinking last nite also about track. I think I am gonna try a to use batteries. But I want to be able to adjust voltage do you know where to pick up voltage regulators. Also I wondering if a standard wall dimmer switch with the turn knob would turn voltage back and use a inline voltage gauge to dial in what I want it at. That would at least get me up and going till I acquired all the other stuff I need. I have batteries and a charger already and I think I have a digital voltage gauge I took out of my truck when I changed over to the fiberglass dash and autometer gauges. What do yall think about the dimmer switch will It work?
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Post by pceng on Feb 5, 2015 13:14:35 GMT -7
I understand that. I was actually just rebuilding a starter yesterday and while looking at the starter I was thinking about the inline cars. These little cars are essentially a tiny starter. I was thinking last nite also about track. I think I am gonna try a to use batteries. But I want to be able to adjust voltage do you know where to pick up voltage regulators. Also I wondering if a standard wall dimmer switch with the turn knob would turn voltage back and use a inline voltage gauge to dial in what I want it at. That would at least get me up and going till I acquired all the other stuff I need. I have batteries and a charger already and I think I have a digital voltage gauge I took out of my truck when I changed over to the fiberglass dash and autometer gauges. What do yall think about the dimmer switch will It work? All electric motors are basically the same........ Batteries , do away with any wants for amperage....... not sure about dimmer switch. Can't see why not. As long as your not trying to pass more amps through switch than it is rated for. |
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Post by dave632 on Feb 5, 2015 13:51:04 GMT -7
I put a set of silicone tiny tires on and after I got them to stay on there was not much
difference when the weight was added. The extra 16 grams definitely slowed it down now.
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Post by dave632 on Feb 5, 2015 14:00:03 GMT -7
DC motors use the same principal but the older starter motors used a field coil instead of static magnets. The winds are more complex on a starter motor but the principal is the same.
I don't know if a dimmer switch would do what you want it to do, never looked at the specs for one.
They are designed for AC and that is a different system.
You would surely want to fuse that system with quick acting fuses as you will surely fry things with the amperage available.
Running a single battery at 12-14 volts using a battery charger to keep the battery voltage up would be a lot safer than going to 2 12 v batteries in series.
With the 2 batteries you will sure be flying but also smoking some chassis.
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Post by lewis on Feb 5, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -7
Dave from what I understand the amperage wont be a issue since the car will only take what it needs. The voltage will be the problem but that's why I'm looking at putting a amp gauge and some way to adjust it I could use a voltage regulator but I'm trying to make it variable power. As far as fusing and wiring the batteries that wont be a problem for me I am real familiar with the 12volt system I am certified in car audio instillation and have done alot with them for spl competitions my main thing is regulating the power which I'm sure when I get to best buy I will find something if not I will contact monster wiring for something if i can catch it in the rite price range.
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Post by pceng on Feb 5, 2015 14:40:53 GMT -7
Have toyed with idea of making plug in converter (AC to DC) with adjustable output. Seems like bridge rectifier (4 diodes) and dimmer is all that would be needed. Keep thinking ...... it's to simple.
I don't think amperage would be a problem. If I'm correct amperage has to be drawn. And I have seen posts on this site from somebody hitting his cars with 110v (or something like).
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Post by pceng on Feb 5, 2015 14:48:51 GMT -7
I put a set of silicone tiny tires on and after I got them to stay on there was not much difference when the weight was added. The extra 16 grams definitely slowed it down now. Not sure I get this......... with better traction same weigh will now slow ? |
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Post by lewis on Feb 5, 2015 15:27:13 GMT -7
Lol peter I'm gonna have to try the 110 volts it will fly all to pieces but will so be worth it.
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Post by pceng on Feb 5, 2015 16:44:00 GMT -7
Lol peter I'm gonna have to try the 110 volts it will fly all to pieces but will so be worth it. I'll look see if I can find thead........ |
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Post by dave632 on Feb 6, 2015 12:07:45 GMT -7
I put a set of silicone tiny tires on and after I got them to stay on there was not much difference when the weight was added. The extra 16 grams definitely slowed it down now. Not sure I get this......... with better traction same weigh will now slow ? Yes with the better tires there was a slight slowing in ET with the extra weight. I will have to do some further checking. |
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Post by dave632 on Feb 6, 2015 12:13:13 GMT -7
Lol peter I'm gonna have to try the 110 volts it will fly all to pieces but will so be worth it. 110 or 120 VAC converted to DC with bridge rectifiers, (you would need some high power rectifiers), and filters would immediately smoke any motor we have. I would not suggest it. |
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Post by lewis on Feb 6, 2015 13:45:30 GMT -7
I have a couple junk arms I'm gonna stick 110 to just for s***s and giggles lol I just wanna see what it will do.
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Post by dave632 on Feb 6, 2015 14:22:23 GMT -7
Have your fire extinguisher handy.
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Post by mike11422 on Feb 6, 2015 15:13:10 GMT -7
Could you post a video? I'd like to see the fireworks show. Hehe
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