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Post by lewis on Jan 24, 2015 13:48:28 GMT -7
What would be the best setup for a newbie. I was thinking of buying the slot dragon system and using plastic track with a cheaper adjustable power supply anyone have any suggestions to this. I will be using it with my kids and also for testing and building cars. Thanks lewis
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Post by pceng on Jan 24, 2015 15:33:41 GMT -7
What would be the best setup for a newbie. I was thinking of buying the slot dragon system and using plastic track with a cheaper adjustable power supply anyone have any suggestions to this. I will be using it with my kids and also for testing and building cars. Thanks lewis If you have room for a track, anything up & running is good. Slot dragon can be used again if upgrading track. Tomy (I think) makes a tri-power pk. With selectable voltage. Fully adnjustable power supplies are big jump in price. Have been looking at 1/43 scale plastic track. Like the spacing of lanes for 1/64 use. Slot width has to be accounted for. Adaptors on pin guides are easy. .......... Peter
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Post by lewis on Jan 24, 2015 17:16:47 GMT -7
Thanks Peter I know I'm gonna go with the power supply at first I'm gonna go with kinda a cheap-o so its adjustable. I have to have one for my cars and so it can be turned to a specific volt and amp for my daughter to test hers at school. I'm gonna get a used one from a friend of mine that has a old one in his tattoo parlor would it be very hard to route one into a 2x12 and cover it with some kind of epoxy.
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Post by dave632 on Jan 24, 2015 22:20:44 GMT -7
Slot Dragon is a good choice as it times to the thousandth and is reliable with good tech support. You can also adapt it to other tracks at a later date. There are decent 10 amp 0- 30 volt power supplies available on E Bay for under 100. Be sure to read the sellers ratings as I did not on one of the supplies I bought. They showed a Tennessee address when I bought the Power supply, then UK when contacted but actually in China. E bay had to step in to solve problem.
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Post by TGM2054 on Jan 25, 2015 6:39:13 GMT -7
You've got the right idea. I've got the Slot Dragon timing system,Tomy Tri Power power packs and the standard A/W power packs. One of each for each lane. It doesn't have to be fancy to have fun.
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Post by lewis on Jan 29, 2015 7:24:11 GMT -7
Thanks for the tips everyone. Is there any type of jig out there or pics of a jig I could use to make one to route my own from mdf.. I'm thinking I could use a speed square with holes drilled in it to lay down my lines then use some scrap mdf to make a fence clamped to track to actually do the routing. I don't think my hands are sturdy enough to free hand the lines. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Also specs would be great like whole track width, lane spacing,guide to rail slot spacing, and guide slot an rail depth. Also any special materials needed thanks.lewis
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Post by pceng on Jan 29, 2015 8:56:39 GMT -7
Fence , guide ........ both would be better. Do you have access to table saw ? A lot goes into building track. Have you thought about or decided to use rail, tape, braid or something else for powering cars ?
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Post by lewis on Jan 29, 2015 9:10:15 GMT -7
Yes I have access to table saw. I was thinking maybe rebar wire for power what type of wire do you suggest I use for the power. I'm actually thinking of letting our local vocational school do the cutting and routing if I can get all the specs. The teacher there is awesome and is very meticulous with there work if I supply the products it cost $15 yo gave anything from a track to a bedroom suite made even it don't turn out good I only lost $40.
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Post by dave632 on Jan 29, 2015 10:41:59 GMT -7
Rebar wire that I have seen is unshielded, solid core, and generally made of steel ,(not a good conductor), which would be very a poor choice in my opinion. The best wire for our purposes is stranded, and stranded audio wire is a good choice. I don't know how fast you are intending to go but I used #10 stranded audio wire connected to the start middle and end of my track. This along with 2 10 amp power supplies allowed us to hit speeds in excess of 50 mph on our track at only 20 volts in the recent Outlaw race. One big disadvantage of copper braid is that the magnets that most HO cars use have no effect. I understand that the cost of the braid is high but I never checked that out. I think there is steel braid available which would solve the magnet problem but it might also be susceptible to pulling up when strong magnets are applied, especially when you go to pick a car up. My Maxtrax track is 8.5" wide with the guide slot center to center being 3.5".
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Post by lewis on Jan 29, 2015 12:30:42 GMT -7
Dave when you say 3.5 center to center you are referring to center of one guide slot to center of the other guide slots rite? Do you know the spacing from guide to rail slot and what size bits were used to route each slot. Also if you don't mind I have another post under PLEASE HELP.. Building a inline car to run on 1.5amp. Please look at it also looks like you could help me out there too thanks Lewis
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Post by dave632 on Jan 29, 2015 14:19:12 GMT -7
Yes that is the distance from the center of one guide slot to the other. Slot size is 1/16th of an inch or .061 thousandths. The rails on the Maxtrak track measure only .020 thousandths which would be to narrow for any braid. I have some 2mm copper braid that measures .075 thousandths which looks like it would be ideal for a track. From the center of the rail to the center of the guide measures .284 thousandths. If you look at some of the tracks many of the guys on this site race on they use two AW tracks side by side to give some racing room. It would surely be easier than routing your own and the cost would be very low especially if you look on E bay where there is a lot of used track for sale at low cost.
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Post by TGM2054 on Jan 29, 2015 14:25:47 GMT -7
Lewis, the track I'm building is routed MDF. I tried to router it, but had problems with breaking bits, they need to be an upswept bit. What I ended up doing is using a thin kerf saw blade in a circular saw. Both the blade and the router bits are 1/16". If you router in for your power rails.depending on what you use you might have to put something else in the slot to lock it in place.
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Post by lewis on Jan 29, 2015 14:33:41 GMT -7
Thanks guys I'm gonna send a piece if mdf to the school and let them have a go at it if it works out then I will have about $40 in the track its self without paint rails or power. But if they mess up I could of thought of worse ways to blow the money lol then again $40 worth of beer sounds pretty good too.
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Post by dave632 on Jan 29, 2015 14:43:18 GMT -7
What voltage will you be running with the 1.5 amp power? I will do some checking for you.
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Post by lewis on Jan 29, 2015 14:44:43 GMT -7
Dave it will be 20 volt 1.5amp per lane for her state race
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