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Post by ecbill on Dec 4, 2016 5:32:14 GMT -7
A Drag Racing 101 category would be a great addition. It would be especially helpful to those new to the hobby or just new to drag racing, and would speed up the learning curve.
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Post by SKR on Dec 4, 2016 5:35:16 GMT -7
I had someone point out that stock and super stock were the exact same class rules. They were right so I'm removing those rules and adjusting the class names. Everything was basically moved down one which eliminated class name "Pro Modified". Good catch.
Jeff, I changed your 4G Super Comp to Comp, same rules you were looking at, just renamed "Comp" now. Let know if I need to change Super Stock in your line up.
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Post by dave632 on Dec 4, 2016 6:31:38 GMT -7
I was planning on a few threads like that and ""drag racing 101" sounds good to me. I was going to start with a simple one like adding braid to the pickups.
I am glad to see many of the racers chiming in and giving opinions.
Setting certain voltages for classes could be a problem for those who do not have adjustable power supplies. 18V for PSO is fine with me but that will stop some from running the class if they only have a 20V supply. It could be a suggested voltage with some Racemasters using what they have as long as we know beforehand.
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Post by AJR on Dec 4, 2016 6:54:31 GMT -7
Sam I'm good with current Super Stock. Thanks.
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Post by AJR on Dec 4, 2016 8:19:36 GMT -7
Regarding voltages, I would like to see them posted for each class either on the sign up sheet page or the race flyer if there is one. Just so everyone knows up front what they will be for tuning purposes.
Sam will you be deleting the old rules once these are ironed out? They have been a source of confusion in the past. For what it's worth....I like the simplified rules format. Will have to get used to the body switching part, but it's all good.
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Post by dave632 on Dec 4, 2016 9:44:51 GMT -7
SAM, Been coordinating racing dates with Jeff.
Looks like April 21-23rd 2017 will work for me.
New rules are a lot clearer to me also.
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Post by SKR on Dec 4, 2016 11:23:21 GMT -7
sounds good Dave, I added your event.
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Post by SKR on Dec 4, 2016 12:59:54 GMT -7
yes Jeff, I will be deleting the old rules soon.
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Post by AJR on Dec 4, 2016 16:26:11 GMT -7
yes Jeff, I will be deleting the old rules soon. YAAAAY!  |
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Post by kiwidave on Dec 5, 2016 2:46:18 GMT -7
I was thinking with the voltage is do we run a couple of stock classes maybe Tjet and Magnatraction at a home power supply type voltage?
Say 14ish volts? This would give the guys with box set tracks the ability to tune!
Again with the tire size I was thinking of stock classes!
Personally I don't like wheelie bars in stock classes.
Sorry to bang on about stock classes, but I think they are more likely to attract new races.
I do like having guide line rules in the new format.
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Post by AJR on Dec 5, 2016 7:12:48 GMT -7
I was thinking with the voltage is do we run a couple of stock classes maybe Tjet and Magnatraction at a home power supply type voltage? Say 14ish volts? This would give the guys with box set tracks the ability to tune! Again with the tire size I was thinking of stock classes! Personally I don't like wheelie bars in stock classes. Sorry to bang on about stock classes, but I think they are more likely to attract new races. I do like having guide line rules in the new format. I tend to agree with everything Kiwidave says here. As far as wheelie bars on the stock classes, they don't have to be installed even if they are allowed. The lower wall wart voltages will fit in with the newer racers better for tuning and potential races as Kiwi said. Since I've been here 13.8v has been the minimum voltage for stock. Honestly, I am not really a big fan of the lower voltages, but I believe it is necessary for the reasons given. IMHO. |
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Post by dave632 on Dec 5, 2016 8:38:00 GMT -7
Dave has a good point about the voltage for the stockers. I don't see anyone running a race with
a basic factory power supply and track. We do need to have a class for those who are just starting and I plan to try something like that in my next race.
Wheelie bars do not make much difference in stock cars so they can still be allowed as they will have little effect and you certainly don't have to use one. They help the stock cars if there is a bump in the track, such as a section of track that is not aligned well which causes the front of the car to hop up and possibly de slot but that is about it.
On some of the modified cars you almost cannot run without one. With some of the AFX and T jet modified cars with traction magnets there is no way I can get one down the track without a wheelie bar.
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Post by scottman2007 on Dec 5, 2016 10:04:23 GMT -7
Ok maybe I missed it, But are there going to be a list of classes and each class list the rules ?? Say like Gasser, then list what chassis, wheels, motor ,body..etc,etc,etc?? to me thats the easiest way to list the rules would be by each class, it helps new people and to me makes it more Simple, instead of having general rules for Stock, Super Stock,Comp.?? just my opinion.
Also someone said about tires being black, i completely agree with that rule, race cars dont have white,yellow or orange tires,doesnt matter of the compound, doesnt look right.I too think in classes the body needs to resembles what type of cars for that class. iam all about fun but iam about realism to the different Style of Cars in Each Class. on the voltage to me it can vary from track to track,because everyone's car will run at whatever tracks voltage,except for PSO.But the main thing in all of this is to have fun, and make NitroSlots staying Great and the Best HO Proxy Drag Racing Events out there.
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Post by SKR on Dec 5, 2016 12:15:44 GMT -7
I agree wheelie bars are not needed in stock class but I do like the option if someone wants to run them. I'm going to leave the rule as it stands.
I like having the 13.8 volt classes for pancake stock. We can set class voltages however I think it really should be left open to the host. If DCU runs a proxy race it will be at 26v battery power and is not set up for variable. Of course in the past, classes were picked for that event in which we knew could handle the power.
Tire sizes: what does everyone else think? what sizes? what classes? I'm still for leaving it unrestricted for 2017.
Scott, I purposely haven't listed the body rules yet because I think we should finish the chassis rules and put it to bed first. Body rules/Classes will have suggested chassis builds.
Thanks for all the input fellas, let's figure out the tire size rule; do we want one? if yes, what sizes? |
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Post by nosubfor3 on Dec 5, 2016 12:50:09 GMT -7
My 2 cents. Tire size should be unlimited as long as the car does not take on a cartoonish character. (ie. 4 Gear rims on a t-jet)
When setting up a specific car for a specific class the FRONT tires should be within the fenders and REAR can extend about 1/8 to a 1/16 of an inch outside.Of course with with class's like Pro Mod,DS MM/PS and so on,if the builder can tuck the tires inside the body great. If not than the 1/8-1/16 method should apply.
My only question about voltage is how will a neewbie tune their stock car with a wall-wart for 13.8V? Are wallwarts all 18V??
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