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Post by szzzper on Mar 21, 2020 22:06:03 GMT -7
On a 1000’ feet scale track (15’ 7”) what index times are you guys running? S/C S/G S/St. thanks
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Post by GTS on Mar 22, 2020 5:54:23 GMT -7
I don't know what "Index Class Times" means.
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Post by AJR on Mar 22, 2020 6:10:53 GMT -7
I don't know what "Index Class Times" means. Index Classes in drag racing have a set ET that cars cannot run faster than. If the index is 9.50 then the cars want to run as close to the "index" ET as possible without going faster. In this case, I believe szzzper is just wanting to know what times we are running in those Classes for comparative reasons. |
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Post by AJR on Mar 22, 2020 6:33:18 GMT -7
On a 1000’ feet scale track (15’ 7”) what index times are you guys running? S/C S/G S/St. thanks Szzzper we do not have a S/G Class, but we do have S/C and S/S. Are you wanting Pancake or Inline ET's? I would have to do some research to get those numbers or you could go look for yourself in the "Look back" section with the past races.
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Post by szzzper on Mar 22, 2020 7:36:05 GMT -7
On a 1000’ feet scale track (15’ 7”) what index times are you guys running? S/C S/G S/St. thanks Szzzper we do not have a S/G Class, but we do have S/C and S/S. Are you wanting Pancake or Inline ET's? I would have to do some research to get those numbers or you could go look for yourself in the "Look back" section with the past races.
Thanks guys. I’ll scan the site for the info. 👍 |
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Post by AJR on Mar 22, 2020 11:21:10 GMT -7
Szzzper we do not have a S/G Class, but we do have S/C and S/S. Are you wanting Pancake or Inline ET's? I would have to do some research to get those numbers or you could go look for yourself in the "Look back" section with the past races.
Thanks guys. I’ll scan the site for the info. 👍 Don't mean to send you off into the oblivion of forum posts, but your question encompasses Tjet, 3 gear, 4 gear, and Inline chassis. So there is a lot of information there. Going to "Look Back" is past races and it can be enjoyable beyond just looking for your info. Usually the Sign Up page in the race threads will have the Class info for that race. Then you can see if what you are looking for is there or not. Make sense?? If you can be more specfic about the chassis you are running, then I can do some background work too. Dave632 has Smoky Mountain Dragway and runs a lot of Inline stuff. Should have some times there. I run a lot of Pancake stuff at Bear Creek Dragway. FYI.... Here is a link to the Track Records at Bear Creek. Some of the info you are looking for may be there. I just updated it with the current NTRA Class builds. nitroslots.com/thread/3138/ntra-track-records?page=1&scrollTo=30095Current NTRA rules can be found at the top of the page. |
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Post by szzzper on Mar 22, 2020 12:02:54 GMT -7
Thanks for the help. Probably the best thing to do is see the times that are ran on my track, and figure out the index’s. IE 1.50, 2.50 3.50 et.
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Post by nosubfor3 on Mar 22, 2020 13:47:15 GMT -7
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Post by dave632 on Mar 24, 2020 9:58:24 GMT -7
To the best of my knowledge we have never run an index class race here at Nitro Slots. As Jeff stated "index" classes use a predetermined time that you cannot run under. You have given me an idea however and I think my next race will have a one second index class included. In other words you can run any car and if you do not go under one second you have made a legal run. Rules to be posted right after Jeff's race. Here is a link to my track records some of which are extremely quick for the class they run in so don't judge yourself to closely by them.: nitroslots.com/thread/4661/smoky-mountain-track-records |
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Post by szzzper on Mar 24, 2020 20:29:07 GMT -7
I race 1/25 scale slot cars. We run index classes. S/C 1.000, S/G 1.200, S/ST 1.400. I figured the HO racers had index classes too. Would be a good, competitive classes to add to a event.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 20:50:48 GMT -7
szzzper, I too have drag raced 1/24, 1/43 and 1/32 scales.
in fact I was able to have a 1/24 next to a 1/64 track inside someone else's slot car hobby store.
those days are long over.
what I have learned over about 30+ years is that 1/64 scale has different desires than larger scale.
I have also had portable 1/64 track (sold a few weeks ago) and ran two to three races per year at a motorcycle club hall.
I tried indexes and bracket (dial in) races and few were interested.
what really got a lot of folks out on race day was heads up class racing with specific builds allowed.
I respect your well meaning suggestion as I do think everyone here does and you might spark a discussion that could take us in another direction.
so, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions.
review our rules and classes. JJWallace is hosting a proxy race this coming weekend, so please have a look at the posts he puts up and see if you might be interested in joining us at future events.
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Post by nosubfor3 on Mar 25, 2020 4:22:02 GMT -7
To the best of my knowledge we have never run an index class race here at Nitro Slots. As Jeff stated "index" classes use a predetermined time that you cannot run under. You have given me an idea however and I think my next race will have a one second index class included. In other words you can run any car and if you do not go under one second you have made a legal run. Rules to be posted right after Jeff's race. Here is a link to my track records some of which are extremely quick for the class they run in so don't judge yourself to closely by them.: nitroslots.com/thread/4661/smoky-mountain-track-recordsIsn't bracket racing the same as index racing ? |
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Post by ecbill on Mar 25, 2020 5:09:18 GMT -7
szzzper, I too have drag raced 1/24, 1/43 and 1/32 scales. in fact I was able to have a 1/24 next to a 1/64 track inside someone else's slot car hobby store. those days are long over. what I have learned over about 30+ years is that 1/64 scale has different desires than larger scale. I have also had portable 1/64 track (sold a few weeks ago) and ran two to three races per year at a motorcycle club hall. I tried indexes and bracket (dial in) races and few were interested. what really got a lot of folks out on race day was heads up class racing with specific builds allowed. I respect your well meaning suggestion as I do think everyone here does and you might spark a discussion that could take us in another direction. so, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. review our rules and classes. JJWallace is hosting a proxy race this coming weekend, so please have a look at the posts he puts up and see if you might be interested in joining us at future events. Al’s got a good point. Heads up racing does seem a whole lot more appealing than index or bracket racing. |
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Post by dave632 on Mar 25, 2020 6:03:16 GMT -7
Vince the difference between bracket and index racing is that with a bracket race you "dial in" your own time. This means you write your expected time on your window and try to run as close to it as you can without going under or breaking out. With an "index" everyone must run a specific time and not go under that time. I still might run an index class if there is any interest at my next race.
Heads up to me is by far the best and it is what I ran in my full size cars towards the end of my racing days. Understand there is surely some luck involved in all forms of racing. I remember I was in a final one time against a guy who was known to never let up no matter how much out of shape he got and I did not like running against him for that reason. The guy had some bucks and he had about .2-.3 ET edge on me which in is a big difference. We start our burn outs and I do not go past the starting line as usual as there is really no need to unless you want to put fresh rubber down and trying to stay on that patch is almost impossible. Besides those tires were 350.00 each. This clown does a full track burnout but does not come back to race. Turns out he put a fist size hole in his block so I took the 1.2K prize home that night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 9:09:32 GMT -7
correct me if I am wrong.
bracket (dial in) racing uses a sportsman (3 light) tree and the cars leave at different times depending on their dial in.
most of the 1/24 races I went to were bracket races, "run what ya brung"!
I hosted some pretty intense class races that lasted days and went to some throughout the north east.
index races are heads up (not sure if sportsman tree) requiring the driver to know if he is elapsing to fast and get out of it to avoid breaking out?
what is the type of racing that involves coming out of the hole like a raped ape and having the car fall over on it's nose before once again getting back into the throttle?
finally, because of the proxy (mail in) process that we use, assigning volunteers to react to a staggered start is difficult.
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