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Post by ninjatek on Mar 29, 2012 19:16:35 GMT -7
Hey guys, saw some cars today that had "X-traction Ultra G" on them is that what I need to get for Street/Muscle. Didn't get to look at them because of time, is this a pancake? .........PC Currently none of the classes run under NTRA allow for use of the X-Traction Ultra-G chassis. Street Class is the only class using Magna/ X-Traction chassis. The X-Traction Ultra-G chassis can be used for Street Class but the traction magnet would have to be removed as no traction magnets are allowed for this class. Taz, I have spent some time cruising the internet doing a little research and I am having a hard time trying to justify the use of a VW body as a Gasser. The initial argument against the use of the VW as a Gasser was found in the discussion in the link you posted. In it is mentioned that the VW has never run as a Gasser professionally under NHRA rules. It appears to be more accepted outside of the US. The other item I wrestled with was the term 'North American Prototypes only' as mentioned in the rules. Still not really sure what is meant by this as the rules were already in place when I joined the site. At this point I'm leaning in the direction against the use of the VW body as a Gasser. Hopefully, some of the members who were around when the rules were set will chime it with their interpretations. I would not buy that body yet with the intention of using it as a Gasser. Seems like every turn you make, I have to post up a road block sign. Sorry about that. |
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 29, 2012 19:45:08 GMT -7
Hey guys, saw some cars today that had "X-traction Ultra G" on them. . . is this a pancake? .........PC Yes, it is a pancake. If you do not have an X-Traction chassis this would be a good starter chassis. For Street Class you just remove the traction magnet. If ever an X-Traction class allowing a 5.0 ohm armature comes about, you just swap arms, tires, and pop the magnet back in place. |
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Post by tazman052186 on Mar 29, 2012 20:05:36 GMT -7
I was just looking wasnt for sure but I didnt buy it. I found a willys body that Im goin to paint and use on one of my thunder jet chassis that I posted pics of. If I can use that chassis. I also picked up a chevy Nomad body for the Xtraction class to. If that body can be ran. I just have to take the magnet off the chassis that Im goin to use for it. If I cant use my Thunder Jet chassis I posted pics of I did pick up a couple more thunder jet chassis. I just need to change the arm out. I will get some more pics as soon as I can posted to make sure I can use the chassis.
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 29, 2012 20:40:54 GMT -7
Could someone post pics of the under side of a willys. So I can see what everything looks like? I'm replying to this as if you meant underside of a Gasser chassis. Here is a shot of a worked TJet chassis setup to run as a Gasser.  See this link for more photos and specs for Gasser's and Nostalgia Funny Car (BB/FC,TJet) setup. www.nitroslots.com/index.cgi?board=ert&action=display&thread=1983 |
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Post by tazman052186 on Mar 29, 2012 20:50:14 GMT -7
Ok so I have to add traction magnets to my chassis and also add the braids and the shunts to the bottom of my car?
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 29, 2012 21:07:15 GMT -7
I was just looking wasnt for sure but I didnt buy it. I found a willys body that Im goin to paint and use on one of my thunder jet chassis that I posted pics of. If I can use that chassis. I also picked up a chevy Nomad body for the Xtraction class to. If that body can be ran. I just have to take the magnet off the chassis that Im goin to use for it. If I cant use my Thunder Jet chassis I posted pics of I did pick up a couple more thunder jet chassis. I just need to change the arm out. I will get some more pics as soon as I can posted to make sure I can use the chassis. The TJet chassis you show in the photos are legal for Gasser Class and the Nomad body on an X-Traction chassis will work for Street Class. Had to make a few detours, but looks like your on the right road now. |
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Post by tazman052186 on Mar 29, 2012 21:18:58 GMT -7
Sweet!!!! Now time to get building on my TJet and hope to have it done before race day. If not just get the X-traction car goin first.
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Post by ninjatek on Mar 29, 2012 21:19:03 GMT -7
Ok so I have to add traction magnets to my chassis and also add the braids and the shunts to the bottom of my car? You don't have to, but your performance would be improved. These are some of the performance modifications that are allowed. You don't even have to change armature, but I would not put high hopes of getting pass the first round without at least the armature upgrade. Of course there is always the chance that your opponent could red-light. |
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Post by kdog on Mar 31, 2012 7:01:42 GMT -7
Hey guys, saw some cars today that had "X-traction Ultra G" on them is that what I need to get for Street/Muscle. Didn't get to look at them because of time, is this a pancake? .........PC Currently none of the classes run under NTRA allow for use of the X-Traction Ultra-G chassis. Street Class is the only class using Magna/ X-Traction chassis. The X-Traction Ultra-G chassis can be used for Street Class but the traction magnet would have to be removed as no traction magnets are allowed for this class. Taz, I have spent some time cruising the internet doing a little research and I am having a hard time trying to justify the use of a VW body as a Gasser. The initial argument against the use of the VW as a Gasser was found in the discussion in the link you posted. In it is mentioned that the VW has never run as a Gasser professionally under NHRA rules. It appears to be more accepted outside of the US. The other item I wrestled with was the term 'North American Prototypes only' as mentioned in the rules. Still not really sure what is meant by this as the rules were already in place when I joined the site. At this point I'm leaning in the direction against the use of the VW body as a Gasser. Hopefully, some of the members who were around when the rules were set will chime it with their interpretations. I would not buy that body yet with the intention of using it as a Gasser. Seems like every turn you make, I have to post up a road block sign. Sorry about that. Not trying to run through your road block, but as a big fan of VW Gassers just want to set the record straight. Here is a photo of 2 VW Gassers I have in my collection.....  the green one is Bill Clarksons "IGUANA" that ran in h/gasser class in the 60s / 70s. It ran a 2343cc VW engine. I believe it's best time was 11.9 @ 110.45mph. just google his name he has a nice website. The gold car was Larry Aubertines "Firefly" I know it ran in that same time period in I/G but couldn't find any more imformation. Both cars are a limited 12 car run and may still be avaible at www.dmslotcars.comDOG |
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Post by kbuck on Mar 31, 2012 7:34:59 GMT -7
 I think the main road block here is THE NORTH AMERICAN PROTOTYPE BODY, that must be used as per the rules. And we all know where the VW comes from. KABOOM
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Post by kdog on Mar 31, 2012 10:59:51 GMT -7
Good point kbuck, when Sam, Me, Alstar, John B, and Nightrider hashed out the orignal rules for NTRA, I was very vocal about not letting imports run Gasser Class.
All I'm saying is that there were VW Gassers, and having seen them run, I and the other guys got a huge kick over the speed they had compaired to the sound they made, & they were orignal thinkers, not just copying what others did.
That being said Angila's were also a very popular import in Gasser class, I think we just didn't want Toyotas, and Nissans running that class.
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Post by tazman052186 on Mar 31, 2012 19:50:20 GMT -7
Dont get me all confused now guys. Lol. Im going with a willys body now. As much as I would like to run a VW body. Im goin with the rules. But them VWs are pretty sweet.
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Post by pceng on Apr 1, 2012 6:52:27 GMT -7
Hey Guys - Never dawned on me to ask. Just got an Anglia body for t-jet. Was going to use it for a gasser. Allways comes to mind when I think of gassers, Anglia's, Willy's. WILL this body be allowed as a gasser? My thoughts were that body styles associated with a particular class were accepted. If someone said "Anglia", I'd say Gasser! Never thought of one as anything but a gasser. Pleaaaaase, help me on this one. My head started spinning when I saw the DOGS post, and it's getting worse.
..........PC
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Post by kdog on Apr 1, 2012 8:00:14 GMT -7
Sorry I should have been more clear, we did go back and allow Anglia bodys, along with, Austins just for the reason you spoke of. No way were we going to exclude those bodys from the Gasser class. You can see this set of rules under General NTRA Rules / Compition Classes.
At the time we didn't even discuss VWs, just wasn't on our radar.
Agian not trying to start an issue, but the orignal 5 Race Directors intended, and leave room for adding or amending the rules as time goes by. Even with all the weeks it took to forge the orignal set of rules, it is hard to think of everything, we were only human....Oh 4 humans, 1 DOG
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Post by pceng on Apr 1, 2012 13:47:04 GMT -7
Hey Kdog, thanks for getting back on that so soon. Didn't want to say anything before about Anglia's being my all time favorite. Fell in love with them first time seeing one. Not sayin' when that was. But I finally have one I can race!
.........Peter
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