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Post by kdog on Dec 18, 2010 11:40:04 GMT -7
WOW now those guys know how to Torque a chassis.
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Post by SKR on Dec 18, 2010 12:00:20 GMT -7
Start of Door Slammer Body Rules:
Full fendered Car or Trucks bodies with Roof (no Roadsters/Convertibles).
No Funny Car bodies
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Post by nosubfor3 on Dec 18, 2010 12:09:21 GMT -7
I don't mean to toss another twist into the debate, but why is the focus on 4 gear? Why not apply Sam's outline to the standard and magnatraction AFX. The body's are readily available and the mods are the same as a t-jet. (IE) All the parts that fit a t-jet fit an AFX. As far as the unrestricted gear rule of the four gear. The only why I know how to change gears is to cut a hole in the bottom of the chassis. Since cutting of the chassis is in the rules outline I would assume that would be Ok. Another .50 added
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Post by SKR on Dec 18, 2010 12:18:46 GMT -7
Nosub, No real rhyme or reason, It was just the chassis that we were wanting to go with. I like the ideal of being able to cut on the chassis. This should open up some creativity with the builders so go for what ever you would like. I'm sure some will push this rule quite a bit I'd also like to see some tips on what 440GTX mentioned about the gears.
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Post by rickvoegelin on Dec 18, 2010 14:10:44 GMT -7
Here is how I would see the Slammer class. Basically the same rules as Gasser but on a 4 Gear chassis. Sam, I think you've got a great start here. It should be a very interesting "builders" class and I'm looking forward to putting one together. As always, the devil is in the details. If the idea is to have a 4-gear equivalent of the T-jet Gasser class, the rules should note that aftermarket brushes are legal, wheels, axles and pickup shoes are free, etc. I don't know about a minimum/maximum tire diameter for this class, and maybe it isn't even necessary to have a rule on this. I think that the tech committee has provided a good template with the T-jet Gasser rules, they'd just need to be updated for the specifics of the specialty chassis. Although I wasn't too keen at first on the idea of a minimum weight, it would encourage racers to detail the cars without being at a disadvantage. BTW, are you planning to run 26 volts for all classes at your race, or will the 4-gears run at lower volts? Thanks! Rick V.
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Post by SKR on Dec 18, 2010 14:16:08 GMT -7
The rules mentioned on page 3 are only a basic outline. I'll get some more detailed rules together soon. Electrical is unrestricted so aftermarket brushes are legal and yes I'll be running them on 26-27 volts just like the Gassers.
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L_Brown
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Larry Brown - North Texas
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Post by L_Brown on Dec 18, 2010 14:25:46 GMT -7
I don't mean to toss another twist into the debate, but why is the focus on 4 gear? Why not apply Sam's outline to the standard and magnatraction AFX. The body's are readily available and the mods are the same as a t-jet. (IE) All the parts that fit a t-jet fit an AFX. As far as the unrestricted gear rule of the four gear. The only why I know how to change gears is to cut a hole in the bottom of the chassis. Since cutting of the chassis is in the rules outline I would assume that would be Ok. Another .50 added I like that idea. Then I could run these.
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Post by sst1610 on Dec 18, 2010 15:15:40 GMT -7
Sounds fun, I don't understand the whole chassis cutting part. What parts of the chassis would be worth cutting and why?
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Post by gonegonzo on Dec 18, 2010 15:40:00 GMT -7
Larry ,
Would you consider starting a thread detailing the building iof these two cars you have shown >
The Vette has a killer look .
Thx Gonzo
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Post by scottman2007 on Dec 18, 2010 15:55:01 GMT -7
Sam rules sound great to me,and i like the fact we could have a decent selection of cool combonations of blown, injected looking cars.
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Larry Brown - North Texas
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Post by L_Brown on Dec 18, 2010 16:02:08 GMT -7
Larry , Would you consider starting a thread detailing the building iof these two cars you have shown > The Vette has a killer look . Thx Gonzo I would if I built them. Sherman Roark built them for me....He does some awsome work, Thats whats killer about this site, there are so many talented guys that can build some increadable looking cars.
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Post by sjracer on Dec 18, 2010 16:10:51 GMT -7
440 the easiest was to regear it is to change the rear gear. Before we knew any better a group I used to race with used to use a 19 tooth and cut the back out of the chassis, that's no longer necessary or prudent for that matter. Here's a link to how to do it using a normal three gear rear. I have also interchanged rear gears in the AFX 4 magnatraction four gear and AW rear gear with a lot of success. They are definitely not the same gear. Pay close attention to back gear and the rivet be sure it's snug but not to snug. Good luck on your build ! Darryl www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=215904&page=63
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Post by bondoman2k on Dec 18, 2010 16:12:05 GMT -7
Me too Matt! I just made that statement hoping someone else had an idea and was willing to post it! LOL!!! ;D I really don't even know what gears are out there and what may be interchangeable. Maybe nothing, but then maybe a pinion change might work. I do know those are 'somewhat' interchangeble, but not sure if any of that applies to a 4 gear car. And just a pinion change may not even be enuff to make any kind of a difference anyway. Like I said, any body else got any ideas and thoughts? Ron (Bondo) Lonestar Racing and Resins
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Post by bondoman2k on Dec 18, 2010 16:17:07 GMT -7
That last message from me was supposed to include the quote where Matt first asked about the gear change...LOL. Sorry. I just got home..lol. Plus, I hadn't read page 4 yet either... ;D Carry on guys..listening intently. Bondo
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Post by sjracer on Dec 18, 2010 16:21:53 GMT -7
Sam, I definitely vote yes for the rules however not to nit pick can we assume the two traction magnets you're speaking of are polymers?
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