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Post by SKR on Dec 18, 2010 17:08:54 GMT -7
SST, It's just another thing to work with. We will have to see what guys make of it. Darryl, Thanks for posting the tips. I'm going to leave the traction magnets open to what you want to run. I think most guys are most familiar with the rare earth magnet dots that are easily accessible from Radio Shack. Larry, Stop being a p#*s and put those on some 4 gear chassies  I think Roark does have a great feel for making replicas of 1/1 cars. Those are some beauties. |
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Post by SKR on Dec 18, 2010 17:35:59 GMT -7
Guys, Take a look below and give me some input as to what you think needs to be added or deleted. Thanks!
Start of Door Slammer Body Rules:
Full fender-ed Car or Trucks bodies with Roof (no Roadsters/Convertibles).
No Funny Car bodies
Hood Ornaments: Must have at least a factory hood scoop. Injectors, Pro Style Hood Scoops, Turbos are encouraged but not necessary.
Air Spoil: Must have at least a factory rear deck spoiler. Pro Stock Style, Pro Mod Style and detached wings are encouraged but not necessary to compete.
Parachute: Recommend one but will not disqualify a car for not having one.
The main reason for the minimum car weight is to get guys detailing them as much as possible. For anybody running this class at my proxy race..... I have plenty of these items (Scoops, Wings & Parachutes) that are yours for just asking. Weight is still to be determined.
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Post by 440gtx on Dec 18, 2010 20:55:55 GMT -7
440 the easiest was to regear it is to change the rear gear. Before we knew any better a group I used to race with used to use a 19 tooth and cut the back out of the chassis, that's no longer necessary or prudent for that matter. Here's a link to how to do it using a normal three gear rear. I have also interchanged rear gears in the AFX 4 magnatraction four gear and AW rear gear with a lot of success. They are definitely not the same gear. Pay close attention to back gear and the rivet be sure it's snug but not to snug. Good luck on your build ! Darryl www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=215904&page=63That's my point. the only gear that you can change is the crown gear. it's already a 15 tooth gear. why would I put a 19t in it if the car tops out before the finish line with a 15t. A 19t would make it top out sooner. I don't know of anyone making anything smaller than a 15t crown gear. |
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Post by sjracer on Dec 18, 2010 21:19:43 GMT -7
I know you have a timing system, I would suggest you swap a couple out. Do a little testing you'll be suprised. Remember it's not just the amount of teeth but also the diameter of the gear. My best non stock four gear at this time is an old AFX mag with a blue tip motor and a new AW gear no shunts no braid on it. Remember a couple of other important points, Sam is going to run them at 26-27 volts. The standard rear is a pain in the %#%#%%# to get right on a stock power pack. Having to run it over the length of a proxy race may strip it out. Also you'll have shunt and braid which will only increase the wear and tear on the rear gear. Perhaps you might want to try an 18 tooth rear, if you can find out..it's all in the name of testing. Good Luck!
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Post by bondoman2k on Dec 18, 2010 21:33:35 GMT -7
Don't wanna sound stupid..but where do I find an 18T gear? All I can find is a 15 or a 19?  Ron (Bondo)  Lonestar Racing and Resins |
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Post by nosubfor3 on Dec 19, 2010 6:00:41 GMT -7
440 the easiest was to regear it is to change the rear gear. Before we knew any better a group I used to race with used to use a 19 tooth and cut the back out of the chassis, that's no longer necessary or prudent for that matter. Here's a link to how to do it using a normal three gear rear. I have also interchanged rear gears in the AFX 4 magnatraction four gear and AW rear gear with a lot of success. They are definitely not the same gear. Pay close attention to back gear and the rivet be sure it's snug but not to snug. Good luck on your build ! If I understand this correct you swapped the rear gear with the brass rivit? If so what did you use for a new rivit? And where did you get it?? |
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Post by sjracer on Dec 19, 2010 6:08:12 GMT -7
As I understand some of the old lifelikes used to have 18 tooth rears and people used to rave about the 8/18 combination. I picked 1 or 2 a few years back from Rabbit Racing but I know he's only doing bodies now. No I was saying to swap out the rivet. On the new AW four gears the back rivet tends to be lose so I always check them and tighten them when necessary, just like with the three gears you don't want a bunch of slop back there. Also when you swap out rears the gears will mesh different so you may need to tighten or loosen it depending ou your set up.
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Post by sjracer on Dec 19, 2010 6:14:55 GMT -7
I didn't make myself clear I in the last post , I left out the word "NOT" . Do not replace the rivet just tighten or loosed it as needed depending ou you combination of gears.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 7:56:31 GMT -7
some people have said the most recent version of the AW tuff ones has an 18 tooth crown. I haven't verified that yet. can anyone?
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Post by sjracer on Dec 21, 2010 21:41:40 GMT -7
That's good to know. Sam did you notic ethe price of the discontinued balanced and expodied BSRT mean green from Lucky Bob's? $18
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Post by SKR on Dec 22, 2010 4:39:33 GMT -7
Didn't notice but can't say I ever looked. Here are the ones I have been buying.
AML778 MEAN GREEN MAGNATRACTION ARMATURE FITS T - JET $4.69
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Post by L_Brown on Dec 22, 2010 7:06:47 GMT -7
That's good to know. Sam did you notic ethe price of the discontinued balanced and expodied BSRT mean green from Lucky Bob's? $18 Would this arm be legal? |
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Post by bondoman2k on Dec 22, 2010 18:58:54 GMT -7
Wondering the same thing myself, Larry. Ron (Bondo) Lonestar Racing and Resins |
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Post by sjracer on Dec 22, 2010 19:22:00 GMT -7
Good question although I'm not Sam I would imagine so since expoxying is one method people use to balance an arm. The rules state you are allowed to balance and polish the arm.
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Post by ninjatek on Dec 22, 2010 22:03:35 GMT -7
That's good to know. Sam did you notic ethe price of the discontinued balanced and expodied BSRT mean green from Lucky Bob's? $18 Would this arm be legal? I would think that the intent is that everyone start out on equal footing. A 5 ohm unbalanced armature which you have the option of balancing. As some builders use epoxy in their method of balancing that would be acceptable. However, it was stated that this arm has been discontinued (at least at lucky bob's), and I could not find it on Lucky Bob's site. So, I would be of the impression that if you have one from a prior purchase that it would be ok. But, in the fairness of competition discourage all others from seeking it out elsewhere. I have never balanced an arm before, but the procedure in theory anyway seems to be fairly easy. I think an attempt at balancing an arm (if you understand the concept) can only make it better. It may not be perfect but should be better than what you started with. I for one am going to give it a shot,because I think it is fair to all the builders starting out with a unbalanced 5 ohm arm. This is not the official answer, but I say: 'let your conscience, spirit of competitve fairness, and your wallet be your guide'. -ninjatek |
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